Wednesday, February 10, 2010

Florida Man Shoots Himself by Accident

The Miami Herald reports on an accidental shooting.

A man accidentally shot himself in the leg shortly after leaving a Jupiter gun store.

Police say the unidentified man went to Chuck's Guns and Ammo Monday afternoon, looking for batteries for the laser sight on a small handgun. When the man was back in his car, the gun accidentally fired, hitting him in the leg.

The man was taken to a West Palm Beach hospital for treatment.


Why do you think the Associated Press writer used the phrase, "the gun accidentally fired?" Isn't that impossible? Maybe he was a pro-gun guy trying to downplay the stupidity of the incident.

I've got an idea. Since the proliferation of handguns is such a big problem in America and the majority of gun owners are responsible people who don't want to be inconvenienced unnecessarily, let's do this. Anyone who has an "accidental" shooting forfeits his right to own guns. It should be automatic and incontestable. Further, any minor offense, misdemeanor, or documented incident of rage, results in the same, immediate forfeiture of gun rights.

This way, the vast majority will be free to enjoy their guns while many of the "bad apples" will be removed from their company.

What do you think? Please leave a comment.

12 comments:

  1. "Why do you think the Associated Press writer used the phrase, "the gun accidentally fired?" Isn't that impossible? Maybe he was a pro-gun guy trying to downplay the stupidity of the incident."

    AP journalists aren't very deep thinkers. You read too much into their writing.

    "Further, any minor offense, misdemeanor, or documented incident of rage, results in the same, immediate forfeiture of gun rights."

    Nope.

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  2. "Why do you think the Associated Press writer used the phrase, "the gun accidentally fired?" Isn't that impossible? Maybe he was a pro-gun guy trying to downplay the stupidity of the incident."

    More than likely the reporter just didn't know any better. Believe it or not Mike, you know more than the average person on the street. You may not agree with our (gunloon's) views but at least we have taught you some on gun handling and gun mechanics.

    "Anyone who has an "accidental" shooting forfeits his right to own guns. It should be automatic and incontestable."

    Nope. First of all, that is why they are called accidents. All care should be taken to guard against them but they still happen and rather infrequently actually. Secondly, do you know how many police officers you would put out of a job with that mandate? Yes, their magic talisman that makes them the master of all arms in the eyes of the sheep does little to stop them from having a negligent discharge.

    The same day Plaxico had his ND in New York, a police officer in Ohio had one as well. Thankfully, it missed his daughter. This police officer was no average street cop either. He was a chief with 19 years experience and the department firearms instructor. He said that he had preached and preached to his officers that it could happen to anyone at any time and he proved his teachings right. Fortunately rule 1 saved his daughter and himself.

    I hope I never experience one but the truth is, the more you handle guns, the more your risk increases. No different than your risk of an accident increasing the more you operate a motor vehicle.

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  3. Mikeb says:

    Anyone who has an "accidental" shooting forfeits his right to own guns. It should be automatic and incontestable. Further, any minor offense, misdemeanor, or documented incident of rage, results in the same, immediate forfeiture of gun rights.

    You seem to be under the grave misapprehension that fundamental human rights are up for negotiation (and subject to forfeiture for momentary carelessness). The sooner you disabuse yourself of such ridiculous notions, the sooner you can be taken seriously.

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  4. Should anyone who misuses their free speech rights lose their rights for life?

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  5. This just has fail written all over it.

    1. Don't do maintainence on a loaded gun, not even replacing a battery.
    2. Don't have the gun pointed at your leg while doing maintainence you shouldn't be doing.
    3. Keep your booger hook aff the bang switch when doing maintainence on a loaded gun which shouldn't be done in the first place,
    4. This is not an accident.

    One thing I should note for mikeb is that rule #1 must at times be violated in order to do proper maintainence.

    Yes, all guns should be treated as loaded under normal handling circumstances, but the hard fact is that during cleaning and the disassembly required, you unload the gun and confirm it is indeed unloaded.

    My cleaning regiment involves looking down the barrel and inspecting for residue/obstructions...blah blah blah.

    This was a negligent discharge, not an accident.

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  6. I had an accidental discharge of my bolt action .22LR a couple months ago. The sear was so worn that it had less than an ounce trigger pull and it discharged when I firmly closed the bolt. I did have the barrel pointed safely down range. I have since taken it to a gun smith and had it repaired. Should I lose my right to keep arms forever?

    -TS

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  7. TS...

    What make and model of .22?

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  8. Kaveman,

    It's a Springfield Model 84 that I inherited from my dad. That was the first time I shot it. My dad didn't want us shooting it growing up because he said it had a "hairy trigger". Now that my smith gave it a new edge, I can hit the bolt handle with a hammer and it will stay cocked- but it still has that nice light trigger. Nice little plinker.

    -TS

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  9. TS, I think yours might have been more of a mechanical failure than negligence. If I understood how it happened, you didn't even put your finger on the trigger, which is the true mistake in most "accidental" discharges.

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  10. Zorro, I don't accept that owning a gun is a fundamental human right. I know you've got a convincing argument to support the idea, but I don't buy it. It's a ridiculous as saying - no I forgot I hate comparisons. It's ridiculous and only in the never-ending repeatinig of it does it take on some kind of life.

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  11. Mikeb says:

    Zorro, I don't accept that owning a gun is a fundamental human right.

    Do you agree that self-defense is a fundamental human right, then, or do you agree with Barbara Frey--that governments can legitimately outlaw defending one's own life?

    If you disagree with Frey, and agree that self-defense is a human right, are you not compelled to agree that banning the most effective means of defending oneself is tantamount to banning self-defense itself?

    If you are so compelled, but think that guns aren't the most effective means of self-defense, what do you think is better, or even as good?

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  12. Yeah MikeB, and I'll bet you'd have been one of those guys who refused to acccept that the earth was in fact NOT flat.....

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