Sunday, May 2, 2010

Tam on Her Favorite Gun Control Cliché

Over at View From The Porch, Tam published a typically sarcastic post about a WSJ article opposing open carry. She likened the article to a "cliché stew," which according to her exaggerated commentary, contained every single cliché.

Well, except for one. If you're playing along at home and your bingo card has "penis compensation joke" on it, you'll have to wait for her next try, because she missed it this time 'round.

This is another case of the pro-gun person bringing up the stupidity of penis comparison.
On the Uncle post, which Tam hat-tipped, he made no mention of this silliness, but a commenter did. I guess that's where the idea came from. Of course, some of Tammy's commenters were right with her, even referencing Freud's On Narcissism.

What's your opinion? Why is it so often the pro-gun folks who bring this up? Why do they keep saying it's a gun control cliché when they're the ones who keep saying it?

Is this a case of putting words in the mouth of your opponent? The article in the WSJ presumably had enough to complain about, why was it necessary to introduce this too?

Please leave a comment.

33 comments:

  1. Uh, Jade brought it up here just yesterday.

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  2. They keep bringing it up because the truth hurts.

    Look, these are, by and large, socially- and professionally-arrested folks. They believe a gun completes them and serves as an equalizer for those who enjoy active social lives and rewarding careers.

    --JadeGold

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  3. And don't forget about Mud Rake.

    Gunowner advocates keep bringing it up themselves because it's amusingly silly and easily mocked nonsense from anti-gunowner advocates.

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  5. RuffRidr, You may be right about that. I ignore them and make a point of not adding to the nonsense. But the ones that really stand out for me are like Tam's in which the gun control guy didn't say it, but the pro-gun guy did.

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  6. For what it is worth. I have only fired a weapon one time. Did not like it. I have an old truck that I rarely drive above the speed limit. Total "Easy does it," kind of a guy.

    I also have a big fat dick as long as your arm, powered by two huge testicles and a girlfriend who just loves to get it. So, you see... I don't really need the bitchen camaro or some kind of semi-automatic weapon that takes clips of bullets. I got a bullet of my own!

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  7. Here is a blog that's dedicated nearly an entire post to the gun owner's penises:

    http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/put_down_that_latte_and_stroke_my_pistol/

    Personally, I think it's a classic case of penis envy. Those who make comments about gun owners genitalia probably lack satisfaction with their own genitalia. After all, people tend to hate what they can never have.

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  8. Thanks for sharing, Flying Junior. That was the funniest (serious) comment I've seen in a good while.

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  9. But the ones that really stand out for me are like Tam's in which the gun control guy didn't say it, but the pro-gun guy did.

    Perhaps we just need to spell it out for you MikeB.

    We pro-gun folks bring it up as a means of ridiculing idiot anti-gunners like Skyewriter and the folks at Pandagon.

    As usual you have problems with reading comprehension and Tam's post went right over your head.

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  10. What the gunloon's fail to understand--which is understandable given their limited intellect--is that when deprecating remarks are made about their genitalia, such remarks are a metaphor.

    For all we know, gunloons may be equipped like horses. That is not the point. The point is gunloons are insecure about their masculinity. The firearm is their form of compensating for their insecurity.



    --JadeGold

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  11. Please tell us, how does a tool made of steel, aluminum and plastic make me more masculine?

    Does it pump testosterone into my bloodstream?

    It's a damn object, it doesn't have totemic powers, no matter how much anti-gunners try to ascribe powers to what is no more than a conglomeration of metal, plastic and / or wood.

    And yes, I'm compensating. Having a gun compensates for the fact that my penis doesn't double as a defensive tool capable of sending hot lead at an attacker at ~1200 feet per second.

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  12. And those who think others are insecure about their masculinity are compensating for their insecurity about or lack of masculinity. In other words, they are projecting.

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  14. Please tell us, how does a tool made of steel, aluminum and plastic make me more masculine?

    The answer, of course, is it doesn't.

    Especially in your case, Mikey.

    However, like the old guy who buys a Corvette in an attempt to recapture his youth, gunloons obsess over firearms because, for whatever reason, they are unsuccessful in their social and professional lives. They feel powerless or defenseless and firearms help fill that perceived void.

    Why do little kids like to dress up as superheroes? Because, as small children, they are relatively powerless and defenseless. Role-playing helps cover such insecurities. Similarly, gunloons obsess over firearms because they believe it makes them more powerful and less defenseless. Even when that which threatens comes from inside their own minds.

    --JadeGold

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  15. Ah, the sweet smell of projection in the afternoon!

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  16. Thread summary:

    --Tam wrote a post about some twit at the WSJ that mentioned all of the anti-freedom cliche's except the one where everyone has small penises.

    --MikeB commented that it is usually the pro-gun crowd that thinks that one up (where that came from, who knows)

    --Jade said we all of small penises.

    --Ruffrider points out that there are gazillions of examples of the anti's doing that.

    --Jade said we all have small penises.

    --MikeB agrees with Ruffrider but says he ignores them because it wouldn't fit his theory.

    --Jade said we all have small penises.

    --Aztec linked to a website that shows antis are obsessed with small penises.

    --Jade said we have small penises.

    --MikeW said: "Having a gun compensates for the fact that my penis doesn't double as a defensive tool capable of sending hot lead at an attacker at ~1200 feet per second."
    (That one was too good to paraphrase or abbreviate.)

    --Jade said we had small penises.

    --Aztec said that people that dwell on penises are projecting their penis.

    --Jade said we have small penises.

    That just about sums it up and this wass pretty much a bullshit thread. Whether or not I have a small penis is not going to persuade me to switch sides and chant for gun control. Whether I am compensating, projecting or ignoring my penis will not change the fact that I like guns.

    One redeeming value of this thread: we made it 18 comments without Jade calling anyone a racist.

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  17. Kind of a sad thing when Jade missing a lie is a high point of a debate.

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  18. RuffRidr said to JadeGold, "Or maybe your constant commenting about our penises is your way of projecting your insecurity."

    The funny thing is Jade didn't use the word "penis" but RuffRidr did.

    JadeGold's talking about feelings of inferiority and insecurity, which conceivably have nothing at all to do with physical attributes, these are mental things.

    What are you saying, Ruff, that no gun owners do this, that no one you know uses guns to make up for the insufficiencies in his psychological makeup?

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  20. RuffRidr, There you go again, talkin' about it more than we are.

    Why can't you seem to seperate ideas like "inadequacy" and "psychological insecurity" from the size of the dick.

    Again, I say you and your pro-gun friends are more obsessed about this than the gun control folks are. You keep proving it.

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  22. Poor Ruff. One does wonder if he watches those 'male enhancement' commercials and sighs.

    Think of poor Ruff, sitting in his LaZBoy, fondling a handgun, feeling its hard, smooth contours, the warm wet gun oil gently tricking down his wrist. He gazes longingly at the 'Smilin' Bob' commercials which promise male enhancement.

    But what's the use, Ruff asks aloud. He could develop a third leg and it wouldn't make any difference. He doesn't know any women.

    --JadeGold

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  23. Ah, jade proving yet again that while we have facts and logic, the anti-gunners have childish dick jokes.

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  24. I’ve stayed out of this thread thus far because of its childish nature, but Jade, I gotta say… MikeB is defending you by saying you are not all about dick jokes, but rather you are making a serious psychological point. So two posts later- you come back with a dick joke. He is your biggest fan, why are you trying to make him look bad?

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  25. TS: Your concern is touching.

    However, were you to honestly look at this thread and others, you'd have seen I consistently noted this cliche was a metaphor for deep-seated insecurities and feelings of inadequacey as opposed to some physical shortcoming.

    Of course, my 'fans' repeatedly (and rather obsessively)commented about their genitalia. As such, I sought to entertain their..um..predilections.

    But that would require you to honestly review the thread.

    --JadeGold

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  26. Jadegold: “Of course, my 'fans' repeatedly (and rather obsessively)commented about their genitalia.”

    Also a metaphor. They should get a pass too.

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  28. JadeGold said, not for the first time, "this cliche was a metaphor for deep-seated insecurities and feelings of inadequacey as opposed to some physical shortcoming."

    The problem is metaphors are difficult for some people to grasp, obviously.

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  30. MikeB: “The problem is metaphors are difficult for some people to grasp, obviously.”

    Oh, I get it now. Jade is far too intellectual to speak directly what is on his mind, and instead use metaphors to get our simple little gun owning brains to have to work to understand him. As James Joyce uses a stream of conscious dream as his vehicle in Finnegans Wake- Jadegold uses dick jokes.

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  31. RuffRidr, I think the quote you used there is not so much an example of the metaphor as it is an example of JadeGold's exceptional skills at ball busting.

    What I was referring to with the metaphor remark was specifically your difficulty earlier in the thread in separating ideas like "inadequacy" and "insecurity" from the physical size of a man's dick.

    You and many other gun rights folks have difficulty with this and so you attack us by putting words in our mouths and acting all indignant as if we'd said the words. In many cases, like Tam's post that I wrote about, we didn't say them but you did.

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