Alcohol and guns are about the worst combination imaginable. What could possibly motivate a gun blogger to post about drinking alcohol? Breda's done it, and she's not the first that I've seen and I'm sure she won't be the last.
I don't want to exaggerate the offense, describing it in the strongest language I can muster. That's what the pro-gun crowd likes to do. I'll just say it's shabby and irresponsible. Shame on you Breda, and shame on all your fanboys who support you in this. I'd bet not one of them would have the balls or the honesty to take you to task for this.
What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
Hey, you exhibitor of the dumbth, bloggers have other facets of their lives when they aren't sitting rotting in a box in front of a box. I'm sure you even do 'normal' things on occasion, you know, take a bath and wash that naasty arse; thankfully you haven't blogged about it yet though.
ReplyDeleteYour blog might be a strict interpretation of your twisted mindset, but the rest of us blog generally. I've even blogged on white water rafting and skiing.
It's all part of a well-rounded existence. Try it some time~!
I read that article. So, where is the part that Breda posted about using firearms while drinking?
ReplyDeleteThe dirty little secret among gunloons is, of course, much of their shooting revolves around drinking. Or vice versa.
ReplyDeleteAs I've sagely noted, it's not uncommon to see drinking in the parking lots of shooting ranges. And, in fact, many gun clubs have bars.
JadeGal, you've never 'sagely' noted anything in the entirety of your dull and boringly uneventful life.
ReplyDeleteOther than your bling handle, what makes you 'stand out' amongst far better writers across these intertubes ? Provide links, pls.
MikeB, do you drink alcohol at all? Do you drive at all? If you answered yes to both of those questions, then using your logic I must conclude that you are a rampant drunk driver who mows over little children and the elderly with your alcohol soaked death machine.
ReplyDeleteWho cares?
ReplyDeleteThis is like saying that an automobile blogger, who writes about alcohol, is promoting DWI.
Mike, it is about time you stop calling it your “famous 10%” and start calling it your “famous 90%”.
ReplyDeleteTS: In Breda's case, we can call it the famous 0.12% BAC.
ReplyDeleteSerr8d said, "I've even blogged on white water rafting and skiing."
ReplyDeleteWhat's that got to do with anything? Doing those activities doesn't raise the level of your irresponsibility as a gun owner. Drinking does. And blogging about drinking on a gun blog is to encourage that type of irresponsibility. Maybe Breda should be complimented for being more honest about it than most.
As far as that drinking and driving comparison, let me point something out RuffRidr. Parking the car in the garage and getting sloshed in front of the TV presents no problem for anyone. But the gun owner who carries a gun even in the house, just in case, or even the one who has weapons available in the home, just in case, and gets sloshed in front of the TV presents a big problem, not only for himself and his family but for others.
Enjoying one of those connoisseur beers that Breda was talking about, even one of them, is absolutely incompatible with gun ownership. Alcohol is a drug, it's used to get high. There's no place for getting high on drugs in the life of a responsible gun owner.
Enjoying one of those connoisseur beers that Breda was talking about, even one of them, is absolutely incompatible with gun ownership. Alcohol is a drug, it's used to get high. There's no place for getting high on drugs in the life of a responsible gun owner.
ReplyDeleteI've never read a more ignorant line of commentary in my life.
With those couple sentences, you've forever tarnished your future in blogging. There is nothing you can post ever again that can be taken seriously, if you honestly believe those lines. If you extrapolate your thoughts, no police officer, no soldier, no one with access to even a pen knife can ever again drink a Bud Light.
My gawd, man, you are seriously flawed in your thinking. No wonder gun bloggers point and laugh.
Parking the car in the garage and getting sloshed in front of the TV presents no problem for anyone.
ReplyDeleteAnd you can put a gun in a safe. What's your point hypocrite?
Serr8d, I knew you'd like that one. It's extreme, I admit, no wonder you can't get behind it. Extreme positions are so hard to swallow.
ReplyDeleteRuffRidr, What does hypocrisy have to do with this? Ar you so devoid of proper English adjectives that you have to resort to the same ones over and over again.
Putting the guns in a safe before getting sloshed would be akin to putting the car in the garage. Both gun owner and car owner would resolve not to open the safe or garage. Is that your idea? Let me ask you this, how many gun owners would do such a thing? Many car owners would, but gun owners? I dont think so.
Now you've gone and tricked me into a lengthy comparison when you know I hate them and we've really pissed Serr8d off because he considers the whole subject totally ridiculous.
Mike B is right.
ReplyDeleteA gunloon with whom I disagree on most every issue once wrote on the issues everyone considering becoming a gunowner should consider. Here's what he wrote:
"First, go sleep on it. Owning a gun is, more than anything, a responsibility (one this too many people take far too lightly). You are responsible for the gun 24/7; are you prepared for that? Owning a gun doesn't intrinsically make you safer; Jeff Cooper famously said that "owning a gun doesn't make you a shooter any more than owning a piano makes you a musician".
So you have to adopt a set of behaviors and habits along with the gun.
Some of them are about the security of the gun - keeping it from being stolen, or from letting children have access to it. Buy a gun safe. Use it religiously.
Some of it is about self-knowledge. There's a little Deb Frisch in all of us. Is yours fully under control? If the answer to that question isn't an immediate and obvious "Huh? Of course it is." And if you aren't 100% sure that 5 of your closest friends would answer the same way, think hard before you head to the gun store.
Some of it is about committing to some basic level of competence in order to make the gun a useful tool. There are classes you can and should take almost anywhere. They range from the big-time schools, like Gunsite, Insights, and Thunder Ranch (I've been to all of these and recommend them unqualifiedly) to local instructors like Mike Dalton here in Los Angeles, or others at ranges throughout the area you live."
Most of these points I agree with somewhat. I disagree with several others such the one about asking your friends about your level of responsibility. Chances are excellent that if you're a meathead like Linoge, your friends like Weerd are also meatheads.
I also disagree with the gun school recommendations.
I believe you are wrong Mike.
ReplyDeleteBeer is just food.
It's like saying car owners or crane operators should never drink beer.
I read her blog now thanks to you. I have signed up for a shooting class and a friend is taking me to the range this weekend to help me decide what gun(s) to buy.
Then I will go out for a beer.
No, Karen. Beer is not food. It is actually much more close to a drug.
ReplyDeleteTo be sure, operating a car or heavy machinery while drinking is not a good idea and is illegal. The fact is pretty plain we don't have too many instances where impaired crane operators are misusing their cranes.
As for cars, there are altogether too many instances of impaired drivers. But there is a profound difference between guns and cars. Here's such an example: let's say you get really drunk to the point you black out. Your car doesn't become much of a concern since you're not in it and the car isn't going any place by itself. OTOH, if you have a gun, you no longer have positive control of the weapon which you, as a gunowner, are responsible for.
I never cared about the gun issue before drifting into blogs about both sides of the issue.
ReplyDeleteIn the end, after all the arguments, I find that gun ownership has merits.
It allows me to protect myself. Not rely on anyone for my safety. And to be safe I will train and practice and become proficient. Like I am with a car.
In the end, I will be armed and you will not. I will be safer. I will be stronger. Cool.
Actually, Karen, owning a gun means that you are about three times more likely to be a homicide victim than someone who doesn't.
ReplyDeleteSo, you may *feel* safer and may *feel* stronger but your feelings are just that; the scientific evidence says otherwise.
BTW, Karen gun ownership *and* drinking raises your risk of homicide dramatically.
ReplyDeleteThat's why Breda's post was so irresponsible.
Good for you Karen.
ReplyDeleteJade: “To be sure, operating a car or heavy machinery while drinking is not a good idea and is illegal.”
What you are missing is that no one is advocating drinking while using firearms. For some reason, which I am yet to understand, you and Mike think that drinking can’t be separated from firearm use the way you can separate drinking from driving or crane operating. You notice that Breda did not say she drank a six pack and then set them up on the fence and blew them away.
Jade: “Actually, Karen, owning a gun means that you are about three times more likely to be a homicide victim than someone who doesn't.”
Who wants to kill her now that she owns a gun? Who? This simple question illustrates how counting up a bunch of dead gangbangers from a shootout is used to attempt to scare the public away from firearm ownership.
Good luck Karen. I sincerely hope you do it just like you say, the training part anyway. All the best.
ReplyDeleteAnd by all means keep coming around. I have some thoughts on home protection that involve claymore mines and rocket launchers you'll probably like. But you're not quite ready the them yet.
Festina lente, Karen. You'll be amongst friends and good people.
ReplyDeleteSerr8d left a comment for Breda which begins like this:
ReplyDelete"Hey, the nutcase MikeB posted on your post. I've taken up trolling him as a weekly feature; but he's stopped posting my comments.
Here's what I left for that slimeturd MikeB:
"Hey, you exhibitor of the dumbth, bloggers have other facets of their lives when they aren't sitting rotting in a box in front of a box.".
The fact is I have not "stopped posting" his comments. Refer to the first comment on this thread.
I really don't understand the morality of a person who will lie like that. It's totally superfluous to the argument. He could easily call me a nutcase for suggesting that drinking alcohol is incompatible with truly responsible gun ownership, but that's not enough. He decided to add to the indictment the untrue charge that I delete comments I don't like.
Now I ask you, who's the nutcase?
Serr8d, Sorry for deleting your last comment. I did that because it contained some foul shit that I don't like not because it contained additional mendatious justifications concerning your silly comment at Breda's.
ReplyDeleteYour comment at the beginning of this post was approved the moment I saw it and not because I first saw the nonsense you wrote elsewhere.
About the drinking, let me ask you like this. Does drinking improve your ability with guns? Does it enhance your ability to make split-second decisions? These are yes or no questions.
Here's a Venn Diagram I created just for you, for to further help your fierce but tiny mind understand what obviously passes far, far overhead.
ReplyDeleteIf it needs further explaining, God help you, because I can't.