Hey, a tribute to a dictator who supported Iran, funded and armed Terrorists and Drug Cartels in Columbia to destabilize it's government, and imprisoned political opponents!
But at least he appreciated Noam, so you're good with this horribly misunderstood man!
It's just too bad the cancer got Chavez before he could spend some time in one of his prisons.
You comment seems to be the result of jingoistic brainwashing. Everything he said about the US was true. His only mistake was to think Obama was going to be better.
Actually, everything I said there is the result of paying attention to the news, including international sources, and talking to people from Columbia, Bolivia, and Venezuela.
As for Chavez's statements about Bush and the American government--so he got a few things right. I'm sure you could find a few correct things that most people would agree with in the statements of anybody, up to and including Stalin and Hitler.
It doesn't change the fact that within his own sphere, Chavez was worse one human rights and did as much to destabilize those neighbors of his that did not align with him as Bush and Obama.
I saw Venezuela before Chavez. The transformation of an oil cartel controlled socially unjust and oppressive dictatorship by the vision of one man was a heroic struggle! There were no easy victories for him. His struggle will never be over, but then he will always inspire the Venezuelans to never give up or go back! A true hero of the little people, who he truly gave dignity to.
He just replaced one dictator with another. He may have slightly improved the lot of some of the people, but a hero doesn't do massive lipservice to human rights while imprisoning opponents and rigging elections.
Chavez will surely be missed. Dedicated champion of progress for his people, his region and bright example for all world leaders. He proved u don't have to kiss Uncle Sam's A77 or flush his toilet in return for protection/ friendship/ self esteem & economic progress. Venezuela lost a great leader!!
Bright example that--hugging Ahmadinejad, giving arms to narco-cartels in Columbia, jailing opponents and rigging elections to ensure the continuing success of the "revolution." No thanks.
The World Revolution will strive on against the tyranny of individualism without our dearest fallen Comrade. He shall be remembered. In a generation or so, the schoolchildren of America will learn of the good that Chavez has done for mankind.
Rest in Peace? Burn in the fires of hell, if there is such a place. Castro started out with the same rhetoric that pleased the left, too. But Mikeb, are you claiming that Chavez didn't support Iran? Are you saying that he didn't support terrorist groups in neighboring countries? Are you saying that he didn't imprison those who disagreed with him?
Tragically for your cause, freedom is it's own undertaker.
You are correct in observing that, although the themes and fleeting dogma may bear petty variances, the utopia remains fundamental to the inevitable progression of Humanity.
You will be of use to what you fear as "tyranny". You are a (rather interesting, and sometimes eloquent) insect, mired in the cage of your own perception. However the fruit of our labor is not quite ripe yet. Give it time, and you will come to understand.
ummmm......i highly doubt you will be burying anyone.
i see this same Rhetoric and have seen it for a long time. your utopian views are as delusional as you and the rest who follow them. You claim that many are brainwashed by our government but i seriously gotta ask, who brainwashed you?
Did Chavez bomb, invade and occupy any other countries? Did he assassinate his citizens half-way around the world? He was friends with Cuba and Iran. That seems to me to be setting a good example instead of threatening them, boycotting them and sanctioning them, which is actually an act of war. Funny, our neighbor to the North has no problem with our neighbor to the South.
Boo Hoo, Iran was a trading partner with Chavez. Well, most every other nation on Earth was too. Just like most nations have billions in investments in Iran.
I don't know much about Chavez, but since the CIA is dancing with joy over his demise, I gotta think he wasn't so bad.
I can understand the sentiment of extreme skepticism, but from talking with friends from Venezuela and surrounding countries, he did plenty. The Venezuelans couldn't stand him as just another corrupt, self-serving socialist dictator with an annoying cult of personality. Columbians told me about his support for terror and narcotics groups in their country that were trying to destabilize their government since they refused to follow his socialist lead.
Hugo didn't have the technology or reach our government had, but he engaged in the same dirty tricks when it came to his neighbors.
As for your comments about his relations with Iran and Cuba--you're right in saying that sanctions are an act of war and that if we want to pursue diplomacy then we should really pursue it in a friendly manner.
Still, there's a difference between not carrying out the politically correct war of sanctions and embracing and supporting villains.
If the CIA is dancing over this one, they got it right. Chavez was a collectivist and a dictator. Not the worst in history, but still one in their number. Good riddance.
(Also, you suggest he might not be that bad based on his enemies, but look at his friends who mourn him--Mike, E.N., MSNBC, The Communists in Cuba, etc. etc.)
Right, because those are such fair elections, free of fraud and rigging. Honestly, you couldn't have said anything that would have made you look more like a useful idiot and dupe.
Thank you for posting your tribute to Chavez and for doubling down. You've shown your colors--just another dictator lover, so long as he's your flavor of dictator. After all, Socialists are never really dictators and they are never ever tyrannical--the charges against them are only lies made up by their right wing opponents, the US Government and their stooges.
And before you tell me to look in a mirror, I acknowledge that many on the right fall for the same bullshit and support their own dictators. I hate all flavors of dictators--fascist, socialist, communist, _______-ist.
Good riddance to a rotten dictator!
ReplyDeleteHey, a tribute to a dictator who supported Iran, funded and armed Terrorists and Drug Cartels in Columbia to destabilize it's government, and imprisoned political opponents!
ReplyDeleteBut at least he appreciated Noam, so you're good with this horribly misunderstood man!
It's just too bad the cancer got Chavez before he could spend some time in one of his prisons.
You comment seems to be the result of jingoistic brainwashing. Everything he said about the US was true. His only mistake was to think Obama was going to be better.
DeleteActually, everything I said there is the result of paying attention to the news, including international sources, and talking to people from Columbia, Bolivia, and Venezuela.
DeleteAs for Chavez's statements about Bush and the American government--so he got a few things right. I'm sure you could find a few correct things that most people would agree with in the statements of anybody, up to and including Stalin and Hitler.
It doesn't change the fact that within his own sphere, Chavez was worse one human rights and did as much to destabilize those neighbors of his that did not align with him as Bush and Obama.
Hugo Chavez, saved by Cuba's free medical....
DeleteI saw Venezuela before Chavez. The transformation of an oil cartel controlled socially unjust and oppressive dictatorship by the vision of one man was a heroic struggle! There were no easy victories for him. His struggle will never be over, but then he will always inspire the Venezuelans to never give up or go back! A true hero of the little people, who he truly gave dignity to.
ReplyDeleteHe just replaced one dictator with another. He may have slightly improved the lot of some of the people, but a hero doesn't do massive lipservice to human rights while imprisoning opponents and rigging elections.
DeleteDoes this mean we won't be hearing from E.N. anymore?
ReplyDeleteI have outlived many, including Chavez. I shall be outlived by the revolution. You and your offspring shall reap the benefits of our labor.
DeleteChavez will surely be missed. Dedicated champion of progress for his people, his region and bright example for all world leaders. He proved u don't have to kiss Uncle Sam's A77 or flush his toilet in return for protection/ friendship/ self esteem & economic progress. Venezuela lost a great leader!!
ReplyDeleteBright example that--hugging Ahmadinejad, giving arms to narco-cartels in Columbia, jailing opponents and rigging elections to ensure the continuing success of the "revolution." No thanks.
DeleteDedicated champion worth 2 billion dollars.... I seriously hope he died a painful gurgling death...
DeleteThe World Revolution will strive on against the tyranny of individualism without our dearest fallen Comrade. He shall be remembered. In a generation or so, the schoolchildren of America will learn of the good that Chavez has done for mankind.
DeleteRest in Peace? Burn in the fires of hell, if there is such a place. Castro started out with the same rhetoric that pleased the left, too. But Mikeb, are you claiming that Chavez didn't support Iran? Are you saying that he didn't support terrorist groups in neighboring countries? Are you saying that he didn't imprison those who disagreed with him?
ReplyDeleteWould you have said the same about Joseph Stalin?
Tragically for your cause, freedom is it's own undertaker.
DeleteYou are correct in observing that, although the themes and fleeting dogma may bear petty variances, the utopia remains fundamental to the inevitable progression of Humanity.
You will be of use to what you fear as "tyranny". You are a (rather interesting, and sometimes eloquent) insect, mired in the cage of your own perception. However the fruit of our labor is not quite ripe yet. Give it time, and you will come to understand.
History is on our side. We will bury you.
ummmm......i highly doubt you will be burying anyone.
Deletei see this same Rhetoric and have seen it for a long time. your utopian views are as delusional as you and the rest who follow them. You claim that many are brainwashed by our government but i seriously gotta ask, who brainwashed you?
Just another dictator.
ReplyDeleteDid Chavez bomb, invade and occupy any other countries? Did he assassinate his citizens half-way around the world?
ReplyDeleteHe was friends with Cuba and Iran. That seems to me to be setting a good example instead of threatening them, boycotting them and sanctioning them, which is actually an act of war. Funny, our neighbor to the North has no problem with our neighbor to the South.
Boo Hoo, Iran was a trading partner with Chavez. Well, most every other nation on Earth was too. Just like most nations have billions in investments in Iran.
I don't know much about Chavez, but since the CIA is dancing with joy over his demise, I gotta think he wasn't so bad.
orlin sellers
Orlin,
DeleteI can understand the sentiment of extreme skepticism, but from talking with friends from Venezuela and surrounding countries, he did plenty. The Venezuelans couldn't stand him as just another corrupt, self-serving socialist dictator with an annoying cult of personality. Columbians told me about his support for terror and narcotics groups in their country that were trying to destabilize their government since they refused to follow his socialist lead.
Hugo didn't have the technology or reach our government had, but he engaged in the same dirty tricks when it came to his neighbors.
As for your comments about his relations with Iran and Cuba--you're right in saying that sanctions are an act of war and that if we want to pursue diplomacy then we should really pursue it in a friendly manner.
Still, there's a difference between not carrying out the politically correct war of sanctions and embracing and supporting villains.
If the CIA is dancing over this one, they got it right. Chavez was a collectivist and a dictator. Not the worst in history, but still one in their number. Good riddance.
(Also, you suggest he might not be that bad based on his enemies, but look at his friends who mourn him--Mike, E.N., MSNBC, The Communists in Cuba, etc. etc.)
" The Venezuelans couldn't stand him as just another corrupt, self-serving socialist dictator with an annoying cult of personality. "
DeleteThat's why they kept re-electing him?
Free and fair elections, there were not.
DeleteRight, because those are such fair elections, free of fraud and rigging. Honestly, you couldn't have said anything that would have made you look more like a useful idiot and dupe.
DeleteThank you for posting your tribute to Chavez and for doubling down. You've shown your colors--just another dictator lover, so long as he's your flavor of dictator. After all, Socialists are never really dictators and they are never ever tyrannical--the charges against them are only lies made up by their right wing opponents, the US Government and their stooges.
And before you tell me to look in a mirror, I acknowledge that many on the right fall for the same bullshit and support their own dictators. I hate all flavors of dictators--fascist, socialist, communist, _______-ist.
The admittedly few Venezuelans I've met uniformly condemned him as another dictator who loved to portray himself as the champion of the people.
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