Saturday, April 27, 2013

Ramifications From Senators' Votes On Gun Control

Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)
 Senator Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) (Associated Press)

 Business Insider

Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), who co-sponsored the amendment with West Virginia Democrat Joe Manchin, saw his approval rating jump to 48 percent in a new Quinnipiac poll. Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), who voted against the measure, saw her approval rating dip to 44 percent in a new Public Policy Polling survey.
For both, the swings were drastic. Toomey now has an approval-to-disapproval split of 48-30, a net increase of 7 points from March. His approval held steady among Republicans, and he gained ground with Independents and Democrats.

recent Fox News poll
Fox News poll gun control


  1. Dream on. The election is more than a year away.

    1. Actually, Sen. Ayotte doesn't come up for reelection until 2016, I think. She was elected in 2010, wasn't she?

      Does Mikeb really believe that the low-information voters who prefer to vote against fundamental human rights are even going to remember this vote in 3 1/2 years?

      I wouldn't be surprised if she generated more anger by voting for cloture on S. 649 than she did by voting against the Manchin-Toomey abomination. I do know that the anger over her vote for cloture is far more intellectually and morally defensible.

    2. Apathy and forgetfulness are the enemies of the gun-control movement, I agree. (I fixed that so I don't get another [sic] from Kurt.

    3. Apathy and forgetfulness are the enemies of the gun-control movement, I agree.

      Well, those, and facts, and logic, and morality, and history . . .

      At least you have low-information voters on your side!

  2. And after more than a year has passed, I'm sure that a whole lot of those Democrats will vote for Toomey, just because of this vote.

  3. I have been a frequenter of Mike's blog for a small amount of time (beginning with the weeks after infamous, yet unsurprising transformation of one of our nation's houses of leaning into the macabre slaughterhouse). I have seldom commented, yet this particular post does compel me to share my thoughts and experiences with the regulars of this blog, some of them our like minded progressives, some of them bigoted, deranged, and heavily armed men who we wait to see in the evening news as the perpetrator of the next tragic gun-massacre.

    It is imminently likely, especially concerning the progressive actions of the several legislatures over the course of the past few months, that we will soon take the fight to the national front, come the 2014 election cycle and the resulting (Democratic controlled) 114th Congress. The present attempts at civilian disarmament (the Assault Weapons Ban and Manchin-Toomey) failed, not for lack of ideological support (the vast majority of colleagues in both houses supports stringent gun control), but as a juvenile and petty reaction to support by the administration. In spite of their personal beliefs, and responsible public policy, Manchin-Toomey was sabotaged (the filibuster was sustained) and our Assault Weapons Ban was killed by a petty, mendacious, and vindictive act of Astroturf-fueled grandstanding by the Republicans.

    In a slightly different climate, we are only a few votes away from imposing complete disarmament of the American people. We need only wait, and grasp the opportunity when it comes, and work on healthcare, income inequality, and make the most of the budgetary situation to slip in a disarming surprise for the American people.

    1. E.N.

      Congrats on raising your game--I didn't realize that you had birthed a new sock puppet until your third paragraph--though I should have been clued in by the poor grammar and irrational expectations for 2014.

      As for your insults in the first paragraph:

      Missiles of ligneous or petrous consistency have the potential of fracturing my osseous structure, but appellations will eternally remain innocuous.

    2. So, Father of Bullshit or Jadegold--you're no deceiving me--you're trying again? Why not provide some genuine entertainment? You're incapable of good reasoning, but you could, at least, do a good job at playing the fool.

    3. As for your reference to my as this "E.N.", I must frankly say, that dog does not hunt. I am not this digital "playmate" of yours who goes by that name.

      For PR reasons, it may be preferable that you think of me as this nameless, faceless, professional hired troll, who apparently resides in Guangdong Province of the PRC. It would be most unfortunate if you where to discover my identity.

      We are truly only a few votes away from a ban. When that day comes, you will come and turn them all in. These weapons are at home on the battlefield, not in underprivileged communities.

      As a response to to Tennessean's attempt at an articulated discussion:

      Your cranial eggshell of your will soon falter, under the perennial strain of a conflicted existence. Stand on high stilts all you like, stuff your trousers as you might, but that does not change the minuscule creature who bombasts upon a false and borrowed podium.

      To Mr. Greg Camp:

      "So, Father of Bullshit or Jadegold--you're no deceiving me--you're trying again?"

      Is it possible that you mean "you're not deceiving me"?

      Sorry, we speak English in this country. Learn more about our language if you wish to enter into an intelligible discussion.

    4. I happen to know where E.N. uses the Internet, and I also happen to know that no matter what you claim about your language skills, you're still a piss artist.

    5. Let us not be petty about typos, especially in this age of smart phones and auto-correct. Or if you still chose to harp on such things, perhaps you shouldn't say "if you where to discovery my indentity" in the very same post where you mock a typo.

    6. On that point, let's note that E.N. makes that same error of inserting an "h" into "were."