Wednesday, February 18, 2015

Darwinism in Action

When gunloons collide:

LAS VEGAS  -- Police say the woman killed in a road rage shooting went home first before heading back out to find the suspect.
Metro Police held a news conference Tuesday to go over the timeline that led up to the Feb. 12 shooting in a northwest neighborhood that resulted in the death of 44-year-old Tammy Meyers.
According to police, Meyers had been teaching her daughter to drive. As the two were driving home, a car sped up behind them. The teen, who was a passenger, reached over and honked the horn. The driver of the silver sedan pulled in front of the Meyers' car and got out of the car to confront Tammy. Police said, there was an exchange of words that frightened Meyers which prompted them to drive to their home.
Meyers asked her daughter to go into the house and get her 22-year-old son to come outside. Meyers' son brought a gun, police said. 
The two, according to police, drove around to find the driver of the silver sedan, which they did do. Police said, the driver in the silver sedan followed Meyers and her son to their house. It was at that point the shooting occurred. Meyers, the mother of four, was struck in the head. 

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  1. "In a change from earlier accounts, police Lt. Ray Steiber said 44-year-old Tammy Meyers had her teenage daughter run in the house to fetch her armed son, who then went with her as she drove to find the driver who had earlier stopped his car in front of hers, got out and approached her with angry words.
    “Mrs. Meyers is scared, but she’s upset,” Steiber said, adding that the intent appeared to be “so they can find who frightened them on the roadway.”
    “I would never say that anybody went looking for trouble,” Steiber said when asked to characterize Tammy Meyers’ five-to-10 minute drive through the neighborhood. He said she found, and for a time followed, the vehicle she had apparently been looking for.
    Tammy Meyers then drove home, Steiber said, where a vehicle described only as a four-door gray or silver sedan pulled up and someone inside opened fire.
    “Unfortunately I cannot say what was in Tammy’s mind,” the police lieutenant said. “Tammy is the victim.”

    http://bearingarms.com/look-trouble-youll-find-preventable-death-tammy-myers/

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    1. This post give us a much better understanding of what happened. The earlier one was so disjointed it was hard to follow. Would you agree that she was the victim, ss? Was she not the aggressor, similar to the questionable way you say Trayvon Martin was?

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    2. "Would you agree that she was the victim, ss? Was she not the aggressor, similar to the questionable way you say Trayvon Martin was?"

      As Owens said in his article, while not blameless, she is still the victim. Martin made the decision to pursue Zimmerman and initiate force by directly assaulting him.
      In Meyers' case as newly stated, while she did go out looking for the people, she then broke contact and went home. The person who shot her made a decision to take up the pursuit and then initiate force.
      In my opinion, the defining encounter is where Meyers is driving home and assaulted and killed by the person/persons who followed her.
      It will be interesting to discover the background of the person who killed her. His evasion of law enforcement suggests where the blame likely belongs.

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    3. I thought she went home, got the armed son, and then pursued the car? How can you be so biased in your respective interpretations of the two cases?

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    4. "The two, according to police, drove around to find the driver of the silver sedan, which they did do. Police said, the driver in the silver sedan followed Meyers and her son to their house. It was at that point the shooting occurred. Meyers, the mother of four, was struck in the head."

      And apparently found the car. And when they found it, they left and returned home. However, the assailant then followed the victim's car and began shooting in front of the victim's home.

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    5. "How can you be so biased in your respective interpretations of the two cases?"
      that's normal for SS.

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    6. No, she's not a victim.

      Look, let's assume that the guy in the car was completely at fault. 100%.

      What purpose did it serve for Meyers to track down this guy? And why did she take a companion with a gun? You could try and argue that she wwas merely going to defend herself against a stronger male. But that doesn't really hold water. After all, she could have just called the police with a license no. and description. No, the far more plausible explanation was that she wished to initiate another confrontation. As such, the armed companion was to either shoot or intimidate the other driver.

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    7. "No, the far more plausible explanation was that she wished to initiate another confrontation."

      Whatever their plan or intent when they left, they didn't do it, and instead left the area and went home. When they returned home, the assailant followed them and initiated the gunfight, which puts it on him.
      The police seem confident as to who started shooting first, though I haven't seen anything as to how that was determined. And considering how many turns this story has taken over time, its likely to be a while before the story settles down.
      As the article written by Owens stated, while not blameless, she didn't do anything to justify being shot, as far as we know.

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    8. Jade - if this woman is not a victim then did the person that shot her commit a crime?

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    9. Hunter/killers who end up being killed got what they asked for.

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  2. Jade your titles and labels are as disingenuous and hateful as Mike could ever hope for his to be

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  3. No, Tammy is not a victim. She's just another candidate for a Darwin Award.

    Fact is, the 15 yo daughter learned an important lesson and it wasn't about driving.

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  4. I guess SS is still defending these killers

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  5. Looks like things might start moving forward now.

    "Las Vegas police took a suspect into custody Thursday afternoon in the killing of a mother of four following a road rage incident last week, officials said."
    SWAT teams had surrounded a home about a block from where 44-year-old Tammy Meyers lived. At one point, Meyers' husband showed up at the scene and attempted to cross the street in front of the house but he was held back by police. He then yelled, "There's the animal, a block away."
    Jesse Roybal, a spokesman for Las Vegas Metro Police, said earlier that the suspect remained inside the home. Authorities had been trying to contact him using a bullhorn to get him to surrender.
    It was not immediately clear if the man was believed to be the shooter."

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/02/19/las-vegas-road-rage-shooting/

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