Showing posts with label George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin. Show all posts
Showing posts with label George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin. Show all posts

Saturday, July 20, 2013

Obama Press Conference on the Zimmerman Verdict

Department of Justice Puts Hold on the Zimmerman Evidence

George Zimmermans Gun

Washington DC - -(Ammoland.com)- Although George Zimmerman was found “not guilty” by a jury of his peers in the self-defense shooting of Trayvon Martin, Attorney General Eric Holder refuses to give Zimmerman’s gun back.
The Sanford police department confirmed that the DOJ has placed a “hold” on evidence relating to the Zimmerman trial. Officers have been instructed not to return “any pieces of evidence to their owners,” including Zimmerman’s gun.
The Daily Mail suggests this is one more sign that “the criminal section of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division is seriously investigating whether civil rights charges should be filed.”
The DOJ has not said if or when it will “take custody” of the evidence being held. For now, Holder has made it clear he is “concerned about the case,” and the DOJ is examining every aspect of it to see if civil rights charges can be pursued.

Wednesday, July 17, 2013

"Getting away with murder"

Neighborhood Wash/Watch -- the blood stains are still there, not only in this death but in many other deaths.
Shoot First/Kill at Will/Stand Your Ground laws result, consistently, in more homicides, but not in less crime.
 From THE 16 July 2013 Minneapolis Star Tribune (by permission--got that?):


And while we're at it:














That was the students from Howard University School of Medicine, making a strong point about "get away with murder" laws..

John Henry Spooner, Killer of Unarmed Black 13-Year-old to go on Trial in Wisconsin

John Henry Spooner, left; Patricia Larry, right, holds a photo of her slain son, Darius Simmons (AP)
John Henry Spooner, left; Patricia Larry, right, holds a photo of her slain son, Darius Simmons (AP)

Yahoo News further to our earlier post

In a case that bears some striking similarities to George Zimmerman's, a 76-year-old Milwaukee man is set to stand trial this week in the 2012 shooting death a 13-year-old boy he had accused of stealing from him.

Police say John Henry Spooner confronted Darius Simmons, who lived next door with his mother, as the teen took out the trash. Spooner, who is white, had suspected that Simmons, who was black, stole $3,000 worth of shotguns from him, and demanded that the sixth-grader return them. Simmons denied stealing the guns, and his mother, Patricia Larry, told Spooner to go back inside.

Instead, prosecutors say, Spooner pulled out a handgun and shot the 13-year-old in the chest from near-point blank range.

"When police arrived, Spooner was still on the sidewalk, holding the gun," according to the criminal complaint. "When told to drop the weapon, he placed it on the ground and told police, 'Yeah, I shot him.'"

Sorry, but I fail to see the similarities to the Zimmerman case. Spooner was a gun owner who believed in taking the law into his own hands, racially profiled the black kid who lived next door and killed him even though he was unarmed.

Wait, on second thought,...

What's your opinion?  Please leave a comment.

John Oliver on the Zimmerman Verdict -- Florida - The Worst State

Lawrence O'Donnell Discusses Stand Your Ground and Its Role in the Zimmerman Verdict


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The jury instructions included an explanation of the Stand Your Ground policy. Yet, our fanatical gun-rights friends still insist SYG had nothing to do with this case.

Tuesday, July 16, 2013

Juror B37 Says the Not-Guilty Verdict was Based on Stand Your Ground

JUROR: Right. Because of the heat of the moment and the Stand Your Ground. He had a right to defend himself. If he felt threatened that his life was going to be taken away from him or he was going to have bodily harm, he had a right. 


As I said before to the several gun-rights fanatics who kept repeating that SYG was not invoked in the trial, since it is the law of the land in Florida, it was indeed a part of the defense and certainly used by the jurors in their deliberations.

Juror B37 admitted as much.  Now we'll hear all the double-talking justifications from those gun nuts about what they said earlier.  My prediction: not a one of them will demonstrate the integrity necessary to admit they were wrong. 

Incredible Racism in the Florida Courts in Both the Alexander and the Zimmerman Cases


Marissa Alexander of Jacksonville, Fla., received a 20-years prison sentence, Friday, May 11, 2012, for firing warning shots against her allegedly abusive husband. The judge rejected a defense under Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law.
Marissa Alexander of Jacksonville, Fla., received a 20-years prison sentence, Friday, May 11, 2012, for firing warning shots against her allegedly abusive husband. The judge rejected a defense under Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law. / WETV

CBS News

Updated on July 15, 2013 to reflect more of the testimony and aftermath of the case.

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A Florida woman who fired warning shots against her allegedly abusive husband has been sentenced to 20 years in prison. 

Marissa Alexander of Jacksonville had said the state's "Stand Your Ground" law should apply to her because she was defending herself against her allegedly abusive husband when she fired warning shots inside her home in August 2010. She told police it was to escape a brutal beating by her husband, against whom she had already taken out a protective order.

Circuit Court Judge James Daniel handed down the sentence Friday. 

Under Florida's mandatory minimum sentencing requirements Alexander couldn't receive a lesser sentence, even though she has never been in trouble with the law before. Judge Daniel said the law did not allow for extenuating or mitigating circumstances to reduce the sentence below the 20-year minimum. 

"I really was crying in there," Marissa Alexander's 11-year-old daughter told WETV. "I didn't want to cry in court, but I just really feel hurt. I don't think this should have been happening." 

Alexander was convicted of attempted murder after she rejected a plea deal for a three-year prison sentence. She said she did not believe she did anything wrong.

She was recently denied a new trial after appealing to the judge to reconsider her case based on Florida's controversial "Stand Your Ground" law. The law states that the victim of a crime does not have to attempt to run for safety and can immediately retaliate in self-defense.

Alexander's attorney said she was clearly defending herself and should not have to spend the next two decades behind bars.

Alexander's case has drawn support from domestic abuse advocates - and comparison to the case of neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman, who has claimed self-defense in his fatal shooting of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin.

The NY Post Cover


Cenk Uygur on the Verdict - "No Justice"

The Prosecutors Speak

Monday, July 15, 2013

Best Quote about the Zimmerman Verdict

Since George Zimmerman was acquitted, we don't have to worry about more riots, we have to worry about more Zimmermans.

Rev. Al Sharpton - "A Slap in the Face for Those That Believe in Justice"

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George Zimmerman to Get His Gun Back - "He'll Need it Even More than Before"

George Zimmerman to Get His Gun Back (ABC News)
Good Morning America - George Zimmerman to Get His Gun Back (ABC News)

Yahoo News

George Zimmerman will get his gun back now that he has been cleared of murder and his lawyer said today that Zimmerman needs the weapon "even more" than before.

Zimmerman's lawyer Mark O'Mara also practically dared the family of Trayvon Martin to file a widely expected civil suit against him, but said that Zimmerman might be filing lawsuits of his own.

O'Mara, in an exclusive interview with ABC News, suggested that Zimmerman has no regrets about carrying a gun on Feb. 26, 2012, the night he killed Martin, a teenager.

The lawyer said Zimmerman, 29, will be entitled to get his Kel Tec 9 pistol back.

"Yes, he does," O'Mara said. "The concealed weapons permit is another matter because that's a decision by another state agency and they will make that decision."

He said that Zimmerman intends to rearm himself. When asked if he would carry a gun, O'Mara said, 'Yes. [There's] even more reason now, isn't there? There are a lot of people out there who actually hate him, though they shouldn't."

The former neighborhood watch captain wears a protective vest when he goes out in public, although he didn't wear it to court, O'Mara said.

Zimmerman does not believe that having a gun caused Martin's death, his lawyer said.

"I think that he feels truly in his heart that if he did not have that weapon that night he might not be here.... [He] would have continued to get beat even though he was screaming for help."

Zimmerman's lawyer suggested that his client might want to move to another part of the country.

"If I was him I would go somewhere else," O'Mara said. He said Zimmerman will be unable to find a job. "I don't think he can work. I don't think anyone can hire him... George is a pariah," his lawyer said.

Protests Across America - "Racism is not Dead"

 
(Reuters) A protester blocks a train in Los Angeles Saturday after George Zimmerman was acquitted in Florida on charges of murdering Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman claimed self-defense. 

Market Watch

Protests were planned Sunday in several more cities in the wake of the acquittal Saturday of George Zimmerman on all charges in the Feb. 26, 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin in a case that triggered national debates on racial profiling and self-defense. 

Protests loomed in Boston, New York, Chicago and San Francisco, as President Obama called for calm in the wake of the emotional, controversial trial. 

The new demonstrations would follow reported protests and marches Saturday night in San Francisco; Philadelphia; Chicago; Washington, D.C.; Atlanta; Oakland, Calif., and Sanford, Fla., where the shooting occurred and where a jury acquitted Martin on murder and manslaughter charges. 

According to the Journal, some protesters in Oakland broke windows, burned flags and started small street fires. At least one police car was damaged. 
In Tallahassee, Fla., about 200 demonstrators marched carrying signs that said, ”Racism is Not Dead.” 
According to the ABC News report, police were out in force in Sanford, where a crowd of several hundred gathered outside the courthouse was loud at times but peaceful.

Sunday, July 14, 2013

Just because he was declared "not guilty" by a jury doesn't mean he didn't do it.

I'm going to quote something I read on Gawker:

"If you want to get into a technical argument that it's only murder if it's "unlawful," and that if this trial by jury fails to produce a conviction, then the killing is not unlawful and therefore is not murder—well, presumably you also would argue that O.J. Simpson did not murder his wife. But why are you trying to make the argument at all? Why do you want to believe that an armed man shooting and killing an unarmed 17-year-old boy is lawful? What makes you think this way?"

http://gawker.com/will-george-zimmerman-get-away-with-murder-757850043

BTW, what about the right to due process of law which was denied to Trayvon Martin?  Didn't he have rights?

Of course, we need to see more of the absurdities of "get away with murder" laws come to light and then there will be a revolt against your "Pro-gun" silliness.

Seriously, an unarmed person goes to the store and buys something. He is then accosted on the street by an armed person who kills him. Then, the person who kills him claims self-defence.

Isn't that obviously a ridiculous proposition?

One cannot exceed the reasonable amount of force necessary to stop the threat without becoming the aggressor.  That is how self-defence is supposed to work under the rule of law.

Geraldo Rivera Predicted It



But what a racist blabbermouth. He had the jurors put themselves in the position of female residents of the complex who were afraid for their safety.  He had them put themselves in Zimmerman's position getting the worst of the fight. The only person not considered is the one who ended up dead.  No one was put un Trayvon Martin's place, who happened to be walking home in a place where he had every right to be when Zimmerman initiated the confrontation.

According to Rivera, the Martin parents did "the best they could with this kid."  What a condescending, racist idiot.

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