The Daily News reported on early morning Aug. 5th that George Sodini, 48 used two handguns that he legally purchased and fired about 50 rounds in a matter of minutes in an all-female dance class at a LA Fitness gym. Sodini killed three women, including his estranged girlfriend, and wounded ten other women before killing himself.
The gun lobby perpetuates the myth that "law-abiding" gun owners don't commit crimes -- until they massacre innocent people in a shooting rampage.
That's what I wanted to know, his name and why he did it. I guess you could say guns were bad news for his girlfriend. The same rules that apply to violence in general apply in a special way to domestic violence. These sick inadequate men who can't avoid abusing their partners are bad enough, but when they have easy access to guns, it's much worse.
What's your opinion? Are the Gun Guys on to something about the "myth" perpetuated by the gun lobby? Do you think George Sodini makes a good representative of the famous 10%? I certainly do.
Please feel free to leave a comment.
Seems you just can't get it right MikeB, again.
ReplyDeleteI'm not surprised this time; the news is all over the place but it doesn't seem like the guns were bad news for his girlfriend as you claim.
He had no girlfriend.
He had no relation to anyone in the gym.
But oddly, Sodini had no relationship with any of the women he gunned down during the Tuesday night rampage that left three dead and nine injured before Sodini committed suicide.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,537341,00.html
So what law do you propose that would have prevented this?
ReplyDeleteThere are conflicting reports coming in, Bob. Of course you trust the Fox News one.
ReplyDeleteHow "pathetic" of you MikeB.
ReplyDeleteInstead of admitting you might have used wrong information, you try to attack the source and the messenger
But police do not believe he targeted anyone personally. An online diary, as well as notes at the scene and at his home, have led them to believe he was targeting women in general
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/05/pennsylvania.gym.shooting/index.html
I guess jumping to conclusions is a specialty of yours.
So, what laws you or other gun banners propose would have stopped this?
If you can't get the details of this story right, if you can't admit that you were wrong in face of evidence....why should we consider anything you say to be credible?
Bob, This was in the Pittsburgh papers.
ReplyDelete"Sources told the Pittsburgh Gazette Soldini's girlfriend was among the dead."
I didn't make it up. And besides, what the hell difference does it make. The real issue is that he was one of you good guys until he pulled this stunt. That's the issue. Stop trying to derail the discussion.
Your question how could it have been prevented is a good one. First, YOU must admit that at least 10% of you guys are a bad risk. Second, YOU have to work with the rest of us to find ways to identify the worst of these nuts before they do something like this.
The problem is you're so busy denying the first thing, that the problem exists, the problem being that too many of you so-called legit guys are anything but, that we can never get together to try and do the second thing.
"The real issue is that he was one of you good guys until he pulled this stunt. That's the issue."
ReplyDeleteThat's the very nature of crime Mike. Everyone is "one of the good guys" until they're not.
Remember innocent until proven guilty mike? Presumption of innocence? It appears you once again show your disdain for those basic tenets of freedom we enjoy here in the USA.
"Second, YOU have to work with the rest of us to find ways to identify the worst of these nuts before they do something like this."
ReplyDeleteHow do you propose we do this without taking a huge shit all over the Constitution?
Oh that's right, you and your ilk don't care about Constitutionally protected freedoms.
MikeB,
ReplyDeleteWhy didn't my reply make the cut?
I didn't make personal attacks. I didn't accuse you of anything.
You are playing games with moderation to avoid addressing the issues.
"The real issue is that he was one of you good guys until he pulled this stunt."
ReplyDeleteCare to apologize for that insult?
kaveman, If you were insulted, I apologize. I mean it.
ReplyDeleteYou mean it? Bullshit. You continue to do it.
ReplyDeleteLike the others have said, short of trampling over people's rights, events like this can't be prevented.
ReplyDeleteYour 10% is the cost of freedom for the other 90%. Mathematically, that's a good deal. When it starts getting closer to 50-50, then I will admit there is a serious problem.
"You are playing games with moderation to avoid addressing the issues."
ReplyDeleteNow, Bob, you know that's not true. If you use the two magic words, your comment gets deleted. Please don't make me keep telling you. I actually liked the substance of your comment, I wouldn't mind your resending it with proper adherence to my commenting policy. What I won't do is edit your words for you and publish it. You can appreciate that, at least, can't you?