Tuesday, November 24, 2009

Bloomberg's War on the Illegal Possession of Guns

The New York Times reports on Bloomberg's war on the illegal possession of guns. Actually the title of the article incorporates the misleading expression "illegal guns." I use the lengthier "illegal possession of guns" in order to avoid a tedious discussion about the wording. This is one of the favorite pro-gun tactics of arguing, picking something minor and focusing on it rather than the real question.

At City Hall, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and other city officials announced the takedown of an illegal gun sales operation in Brooklyn...

Mayor Bloomberg blamed “extremists in the pro-gun movement” for lax gun laws, and said, “We have to come together as a society and say we’re not going to take it anymore.”

Maybe that's where I've been going wrong. I always blame all gun owners. No wonder they get so upset with me. Even Mayor Bloomberg reserves his blame for the “extremists in the pro-gun movement.”

In the Brooklyn case announced on Monday, Mr. Bloomberg, joined by the Brooklyn district attorney, Charles J. Hynes, and Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly, said that for three months this summer, two men sold dozens of guns to undercover officers from an apartment in East New York. Officials said the guns, most of them purchased at pawn shops and gun shows in Florida, and brought by car to New York, were worth more than $40,000.

What's your opinion? Is Mayor Bloomberg lying when he says guns are coming into New York City from out of state? Is it unreasonable to suggest that stricter controls in Florida would have an impact on what happens in New York?

What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.

8 comments:

  1. Well, it is extremists in the gun movement, the folks who any regulation is a step toward the slippery slope.

    Not everyone who owns a gun believes the crap we see spouted about "gun control".

    "Gun Control" is called "Anti-gun" because it makes the issue black and white.

    But isn't being a gun extremist "anti-gun" as well? I mean people will eventually get fed up with all the carnage, examine the gun extremist position, find it is without basis, and then demand a gun ban.

    Or are people in the US total morons?

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  2. Reminds me of a quote from Saddam Hussein. I'm paraphrasing...

    "I'm not against free speech, I'm against criminals breaking the law and free speech is against the law."

    Bloomberg isn't against legal ownership, he just thinks legal ownership should be made illegal.

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  3. Is it unreasonable to suggest that stricter controls in Florida would have an impact on what happens in New York?

    Yes. Not only that but Bloomberg and his thugs have no jurisdiction in FL. They need to deal with the criminals and quit blaming the rest of the country for their problems.

    Of course that's what you anti-gunners do. Blame everyone else and everything else.

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  4. " Is Mayor Bloomberg lying when he says guns are coming into New York City from out of state?"

    Nope.

    "Is it unreasonable to suggest that stricter controls in Florida would have an impact on what happens in New York?"

    Yes. It's Bloomberg and his supporters who have created the gun prohibition in NYC. So it's Bloomberg and his supporters who should have to deal with the consequences of it.

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  5. "Or are people in the US total morons?"

    Apparently not. We still have our guns while in England only criminals have them.

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  6. Laci: "I mean people will eventually get fed up with all the carnage, examine the gun extremist position, find it is without basis, and then demand a gun ban."

    A theory that is at odds with the way things have worked in the real world.

    It usually works like Britain, which already had stricter gun control than US gun control activists usually demand here yet which moved on to ban and confiscate all handguns and all semiauto and pump action hunting rifles and shotguns.

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  7. Laci: "Well, it is extremists in the gun movement, the folks who any regulation is a step toward the slippery slope."

    As I have posted here before, there are many moderate gunowners who would be willing to compromise to accept reasonable gun regulation, but are rebuffed when they they try to discuss compromise with gun control activists. As a result, they are forced to side with the extremists in the gun movement due to the extremism and intransigence of gun control activists.

    I have disagreements with the extremists in the gun movement, including some slippery slope claims. No place bans all guns for all people. However, they are nowhere near as dishonest as gun control activists, who will condemn a gunowner argument as "slipppery slope" when those same activists have previously advocated the very law that the gunowners said that they worried would be next!

    Examples abound of gun control activists denying that they would try do something to gunowners, but doing that very thing within a few years of the denial.

    I posted some more about this here under the "Rough Weekend in Michigan" subject.

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  8. Or are people in the US total morons?

    Considering you folks in the UK have been disarmed by your own government I'd say you might want to look at your own house before talking about the U.S.

    And this issue is black and white. You bigots want to disarm as many Americans as possible. Those of us with guns simply can't compromise with you. It'd be like blacks compromising with the KKK. It won't end well for the blacks nor will it change the actions of the KKK or make them any less bigoted.

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