Wednesday, April 7, 2010

More on the Hutaree

Media Matters for America has an interesting article about the Hutaree and other militia groups and Glenn Beck's role.

On TV and the radio, Beck rarely bothers to mention the militia movement by name. Instead, he's simply co-opted their rhetoric as his own. He's acted as a crucial transmitter, warning about Obama fronting his own private "army," and urging followers to "start food storage."

Not to mention these previous militia moments:

The truth is that the daylight separating the radical, anti-government militia movement from self-styled mainstream conservatives is growing dimmer by the day. Like the fact-free Obama birthers, the militia remains a radical subset that today's right wing refuses to part ways with. That sad fact was highlighted when scores of far-right media voices initially downplayed the Hutaree arrests last week, or even defended the militia members and -- disturbingly reminiscent of Waco -- cast the FBI and the federal government as the over-reaching bad guys.

What's your opinion? Do you think Beck is an innocuous and harmless presence in America? Are the individuals who act out the only ones responsible for their actions? Does that count even for those who are captivated and practically hypnotized by personalities like Back?

What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.


  1. I think it is totally amazing that after only one year on Fox, that Glenn Beck has built an audience, developed mind control over them and directed them to all rebel against the government. Amazing.

    Of course the more probable theory is he has had little impact. But lets not let common sense get in the way of a good hate mongering against a talk show personality.

  2. Ya gotta love commenters that say Glen Bek, with several hours a week of cable facetime, an audience of several million credulous cretins and a seemingly inexhaustible supply of lies/fabrifacts "...has had little impact".

    Is FatWhiteMan not one of the people who feels it his born, sworn and forlorn duty to stand a post and guard against the poisonous lies of the Brady/VPC juggernaut, lest they infect the defenseless brains of the 98% of folks who are not NRA members?

  3. "Is FatWhiteMan not one of the people who feels it his born, sworn and forlorn duty to stand a post and guard against the poisonous lies of the Brady/VPC juggernaut, lest they infect the defenseless brains of the 98% of folks who are not NRA members?"

    And if I were, what does that have to do with Glenn Beck? And NRA is 2% of the population? I say you give them a lot of credit. Their membership is not that high.

  4. Fat White Man:

    Wait a minute, I thought you guys were, like, the majority. It appears that's, um, what's the work I'm looking for? Oh, yeah, it's "bullshit". It's even more deliciouser when you offer the information yourselves.

    So, the NRA has something between 1 and 4,000,000 members--depending on which of their stats you choose to believe--and yet they speak for the American gun owner. Uh-huh, right. This is the thinking of a group of people that claim "nobody" wants to control firearms in any way, whatsoever, except the few, the wimpy and the weak of the Brady Campaign and the VPC. They, however, spent an inordinate amount of their time and energy dealing with that inconsequential fraction of the public.

  5. I love that they asked for “Public Defenders” (and they thought they could bring down our government), undercover FBI agent, sweet. Since their inception the Teaparty crowd (not a movement since they do have the numbers or clout) because they are haters not debaters or as others have dubbed them screamers not dreamers. The simpleton Tea baggers are the same whiners that were crying when the McCain/Bailin ticket lost. Now that their yelling and screaming failed to stop the health care debate and the bill from passing they are crying again. Lets face it the Republicans had eight years to deal with health care, immigration, climate change and financial oversight and governance and they failed. The Republicans are good at starting wars (two in eight years, with fat contracts to friends of Cheney/Bush) but not at winning wars as seen by the continuing line of body bags that keep coming home. Instead of participating in the health care debate of ideas the Republicans party turned inward to your old fashion obstructionist party. In my opinion the Republican Waterloo loss was caused by the party allowing a small portions (but very loud) of the republican party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards” to take over their party. I will admit that this fringe is very good at playing “Follow the Leader” by listening to their dullard leaders, Beck, Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush, Savage, Sarah Bailin, Orly Taitz, Victoria Jackson, Michele Bachmann and the rest of the Blowhards and acting as ill programmed robots. The Teaparty crowd think they can scare, intimidate and force others to go along with them by comments like “This time we came unarmed”, let me tell you something not all ex-military join the fringe militia crazies who don’t pay taxes and run around with face paint in the parks playing commando, the majority are mature and understand that the world is more complicated and grey than the black and white that these simpleton make it out to be and that my friend is the point. The world is complicated and presidents like Hamiliton, Lincoln, and Roosevelt believe that we should use government a little to increase social mobility, now its about dancing around the claim of government is the problem. The sainted Reagan passed the biggest tax increase in American history and as a result federal employment increased, but facts are lost when mired in mysticism and superstition. Although some Republicans are trying to distant themselves from this fringe most of them, having no game plan/ vision for our country, are just going along and fanning the flames. For a party that gave us Abraham Lincoln, it is tragic that the ranks are filled with too many empty suits. But they now claim they have changed, come on, what sucker is going to believe that? All I can say to you is remember Waterloo.

  6. Demo,

    You and Jade need to get together and decide if the NRA is responsible for all the evil in the world or if the NRA is small and insignificant. You both change your tune from post to post.

    You flip flop more than a Massachusetts politician.

  7. Montana, Thanks for coming by. I like what you say.

  8. One wonders if Demo even bothers to think before banging away on the keyboard.....

    Talk about not keeping his narrative straight.

  9. Democommie, where did you get the idea that everyone who supports gun owner’s rights is an NRA member? I’m not.