For some reason the link I'm sure you meant to provide to document how scared this little girl was shooting this toy gun was. If there isn't a link, I'd have to say that the little girl doesn't look scared. Just distracted or inattentive. And because of that, the dad, or adult is staying in control of the toy gun to insure the muzzle doesn't cover anything it shouldn't. Here you go, I found the link for you with the caption, "With a little help, a child shoots an Airsoft gun at a target. Picture: AFP"
The girl doesn't look frightened at all--looks like she's looking away at someone else. Also looks like she's done this before as she's showing good trigger discipline--finger indexed along the side of the receiver while looking away.
Meanwhile, dad's body language doesn't look like a bully. Looks like a caring father helping teach his little girl to shoot the airsoft gun. The look on his face and the pose of his body, holding her and the gun, look like care and concentration, not the anger or irritation of a bully forcing someone into doing something they don't want to do.
The fact that you look at a picture like this and see a bully forcing someone to do something they don't want to do shows a profound inability to read a situation, or that your bias against gun owners so blinds you that you cannot conceive of this picture being anything other than what you captioned it as.
Yep, not at all surprising. And what would you do? You labeled this under "child abuse". Would you take this man's daughter away based on the way you interpret this picture? Or at least send CPS over to "ask a few questions".
I didn't notice the child abuse label. I guess we've found another think that Mike thinks should disqualify a person fro owning firearms: teach your children to shoot and clearly you're bullying them into into it and abusing them: No kids and no guns for you!
And Mike wonders why we're so unreasonable as to not accept all of his decrees!
How in the world can anyone look at that little girl and see fear? Or her father and see a bully? I think you need to look at this picture, and a lot of other things as well, in an objective manner. That may be impossible for you, but could you at least try? There is no fear in that child's stance or facial expression.
I've seen it plenty of times. The pro-gun extremists think the world revolves around their "patriotic" fetish, and see no problem at all forcing it upon the rest of us, including their own small children.
Your opinion about parents who own guns forcing their interests on children could apply equally to those such as yourself who seem to want to vilify anyone who decides to pursue an interest you disapprove of. If you have children, would sharing your pursuit of advocating for restrictions of gun ownership and belittling those that choose to exercise this individual right we all have as citizens be considered to be the same?
The difference is simple. Guns do more harm than good. Therefore the gun nut dad who influences his children is harming them. Not so for the gun control dad.
Therefore nothing. You assert that guns do more harm than good, but that's only your claim, not a fact. My response is that teaching your children to submit to the government is a grotesque harm. Teaching your children to be sheep is abusive. Making children into incapable wimps is a crime against humanity.
This is why you and I will never cooperate on any matter of significance. We see the world in fundamentally different ways. It's not just about guns. You're obsessed with gun control, but that merely masks a deeper corruption in your soul.
Mike BJune 21, 2013 at 3:13 PM : The difference is simple. Guns do more harm than good.
And where did you get that factoid? The CDC had published some stats on defensive gun use that would seem to disprove that.
And that is a very subjective thing to say. Out of all of the guns owned, the majority are used in gang and/or drug gun homicides and the conviction rate demographics on murders will make you happy but hey! The government wouldn't lie now would it? http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vfluc.txt
My "factoid" comes from the fact that there are 500,000 gun crimes each year. That alone is more than enough to outweigh all but the most lying and exaggerated DGU estimates. But the harm that guns do doesn't stop there. We've also got 500,000 guns stolen each year, many due to unsafe storage, every one of which goes into the criminal world. Then let's throw in the accidents and suicides, just for shits and giggles.
Mike,
ReplyDeleteFor some reason the link I'm sure you meant to provide to document how scared this little girl was shooting this toy gun was.
If there isn't a link, I'd have to say that the little girl doesn't look scared. Just distracted or inattentive. And because of that, the dad, or adult is staying in control of the toy gun to insure the muzzle doesn't cover anything it shouldn't.
Here you go, I found the link for you with the caption, "With a little help, a child shoots an Airsoft gun at a target. Picture: AFP"
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/us-politics/gallery-fngeyb4x-1226636232681?page=18
I'm not surprised we see completely different things when looking at the same picture.
DeleteThe girl doesn't look frightened at all--looks like she's looking away at someone else. Also looks like she's done this before as she's showing good trigger discipline--finger indexed along the side of the receiver while looking away.
DeleteMeanwhile, dad's body language doesn't look like a bully. Looks like a caring father helping teach his little girl to shoot the airsoft gun. The look on his face and the pose of his body, holding her and the gun, look like care and concentration, not the anger or irritation of a bully forcing someone into doing something they don't want to do.
The fact that you look at a picture like this and see a bully forcing someone to do something they don't want to do shows a profound inability to read a situation, or that your bias against gun owners so blinds you that you cannot conceive of this picture being anything other than what you captioned it as.
Yep, not at all surprising. And what would you do? You labeled this under "child abuse". Would you take this man's daughter away based on the way you interpret this picture? Or at least send CPS over to "ask a few questions".
DeleteI didn't notice the child abuse label. I guess we've found another think that Mike thinks should disqualify a person fro owning firearms: teach your children to shoot and clearly you're bullying them into into it and abusing them: No kids and no guns for you!
DeleteAnd Mike wonders why we're so unreasonable as to not accept all of his decrees!
Not just real guns, even toy guns.
DeleteI'm with Sarge on this one. The girl doesn't look scared. All this title shows is your bigotry, Mikeb. Why are you so filled with hate?
ReplyDeleteWhy are you so filled with hate?
DeleteWell, something has to fill the vacuum where reason and decency are supposed to be.
How in the world can anyone look at that little girl and see fear? Or her father and see a bully? I think you need to look at this picture, and a lot of other things as well, in an objective manner. That may be impossible for you, but could you at least try? There is no fear in that child's stance or facial expression.
ReplyDeleteI've seen it plenty of times. The pro-gun extremists think the world revolves around their "patriotic" fetish, and see no problem at all forcing it upon the rest of us, including their own small children.
ReplyDeleteDoes it appear to you that the father there is forcing the child into the situation? If so, you don't deserve to be around children.
DeleteBaldr,
ReplyDeleteYour opinion about parents who own guns forcing their interests on children could apply equally to those such as yourself who seem to want to vilify anyone who decides to pursue an interest you disapprove of. If you have children, would sharing your pursuit of advocating for restrictions of gun ownership and belittling those that choose to exercise this individual right we all have as citizens be considered to be the same?
The difference is simple. Guns do more harm than good. Therefore the gun nut dad who influences his children is harming them. Not so for the gun control dad.
DeleteTherefore nothing. You assert that guns do more harm than good, but that's only your claim, not a fact. My response is that teaching your children to submit to the government is a grotesque harm. Teaching your children to be sheep is abusive. Making children into incapable wimps is a crime against humanity.
DeleteThis is why you and I will never cooperate on any matter of significance. We see the world in fundamentally different ways. It's not just about guns. You're obsessed with gun control, but that merely masks a deeper corruption in your soul.
Mike BJune 21, 2013 at 3:13 PM : The difference is simple. Guns do more harm than good.
DeleteAnd where did you get that factoid? The CDC had published some stats on defensive gun use that would seem to disprove that.
And that is a very subjective thing to say. Out of all of the guns owned, the majority are used in gang and/or drug gun homicides and the conviction rate demographics on murders will make you happy but hey! The government wouldn't lie now would it?
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vfluc.txt
My "factoid" comes from the fact that there are 500,000 gun crimes each year. That alone is more than enough to outweigh all but the most lying and exaggerated DGU estimates. But the harm that guns do doesn't stop there. We've also got 500,000 guns stolen each year, many due to unsafe storage, every one of which goes into the criminal world. Then let's throw in the accidents and suicides, just for shits and giggles.
DeleteGuns do more harm than good by a damn site.
Pure, absolute and unadulterated nonsense
ReplyDelete