Huffington Post
Students at a high school in Nebraska will now be allowed to pose with guns in their senior portraits.
The Broken Bow School Board made the decision to allow the guns in school photos this week after a student asked last year to be photographed with his gun, Broken Bow Public Schools Superintendent Mark Sievering told The Huffington Post. That student asked after the deadline last year, but his request prompted the board to review their practices around guns in pictures and vote on whether they should allow them.
The school board voted 6-0 to allow the guns in photos as long as the images are tasteful, the Omaha World-Herald reported.
"Tasteful," Haha
"Tasteful," Haha
ReplyDeleteSo speaketh the Global (Galactic? Universal? Cosmological?) Arbiter of Good Taste.
Well, actually it's only my humble opinion that teenage girls shooting animals and taking trophies from them is very far from "in good taste."
DeleteI'm confident that the rest of the animal wasn't wasted. Likely residing in the freezer if not already enjoyed at the table. Shooting and consuming Bambi is also a public service since controlling the population reduces dangerous auto accidents
DeleteWell, actually it's only my humble opinion that teenage girls . . .
DeleteAm I to understand that your objection is predicated at least partly on a) her age, and b) her gender?
Aren't you the patriarchal one?
Your "humble opinion," Haha
Well, Mikeb? Would you prefer that she be pictured doing something more "ladylike," more domestic? Is her place in the kitchen, serving the menfolk?
DeleteWouldn't it be a public service to stop unnecessary human deaths from gun shot?
DeleteIt's that time of year again. The thinning of the human heard as they try to thin the Bambi heard. Anyone want to guess how many hunters will be killed this season?
"Anyone want to guess how many hunters will be killed this season?"
DeleteAnon, the most effective way to prevent hunting accidents is training. In fact, at my son's hunter safety class, that is one thing they mentioned. That in the sixties, hunting accidents regularly numbered in the hundreds, yet, over the long term with training, these accidents have gone down to the point where there have been years with no hunting accidents at all.
http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/enforcement/incidentreports/hunting.html
In fact, its presently more dangerous to go snowmobiling than to go hunting.
http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/enforcement/incidentreports/snowmobile.html
Nice try, Kurt.
Delete"Well, Mikeb? Would you prefer that she be pictured doing something more "ladylike," more domestic? Is her place in the kitchen, serving the menfolk?"
Do you think if I'd posted a pic of a teenage boy, I wouldn't have said the very same thing, replacing the word "girls" with "boys?"
Don't I give you enough substantial stuff to object to? Why do you have to make shit up like that?
It changes nothing, ss, if the family consumed every part of the dead animal. Posing with the remains is sick. It's sad that young people, not just girls, so Kurt doesn't misunderstand again, are encouraged to think this is a healthy activity. Hunting is sick and violent. Some people are rightly concerned about violent video games, but actually shooting and killing living animals is good?
DeleteDo you think if I'd posted a pic of a teenage boy, I wouldn't have said the very same thing, replacing the word "girls" with "boys?"
DeleteOK, fine, so you suddenly no longer care about her gender. I see you do still seem to care that the hunter is "teenage" (and mention again here that "it's sad that young people . . . "), so I take it that the hunter's age is still at issue.
So at what minimum age would a hunting-themed pic not provoke your intense Taste Police reaction? 21? 30? 72? Help me out here.
"Hunting is sick and violent. Some people are rightly concerned about violent video games, but actually shooting and killing living animals is good? "
DeleteThis enters the realm of personal opinion and you're completely free to have that Mike. However, you'd likely be hard put to find any of the major party politicians, no matter how antigun they are paying the requisite lip service to supporting sportsmen and hunters as proof that they support the Second Amendment.
The only reason this is news is because of the wild swing some schools have taken in regard to even imaginary guns, even those made of pop-tarts. This is an instance of a bit of common sense being reintroduced into the issue.
The fact that about half of the districts in the state allowing it underscores that it isn't really a big deal. I'm not really a gamer and to be honest, haven't followed the whole violent video game claim. In fact, I just interviewed for a job supporting a simulation system for the Army which is much like a really cool video game writ large.
Kurt, age is an issue insofar as younger people are impressionable and are experiencing developmental changes in their personalities. I find it more objectionable to take a young person out hunting or shooting targets for that matter than an adult who's never done it before. Both, as you rightly mentioned, are sick.
DeleteAgain I ask you don't you find enough substantial stuff to complain about? Are you bored or something? That's twice in this one thread that you've stretched to make something out of nothing.
"However, you'd likely be hard put to find any of the major party politicians, no matter how antigun they are paying the requisite lip service to supporting sportsmen and hunters as proof that they support the Second Amendment."
DeleteI'm not sure I follow you. Most anti-gun politicians do pay lip service to hunting and the 2A. But, they're politicians, after all. We couldn't really expect them to say what they really feel.
Both, as you rightly mentioned, are sick.
DeleteWhere did I mention either as "sick"?
About your objection to hunting--I know you're a vegetarian, to bolster your sense of moral superiority over most of the human race (which evolved as omnivores). Presumably, then, you believe that buying meat in a grocery store or restaurant is also immoral, and indeed "sick."
I have not, however, seen you go into full melodramatic bleating mode over buying meat, like you do over hunting. Even if I shared your aversion to omnivorousness, I would have trouble reaching the conclusion that hunting is somehow "worse" than buying meat. If "meat is murder," then hunting is committing the "murder" oneself, while buying the meat is contracting the hit out to others.
Seems to me that a case could be made for the notion that the second is worse than the first.
Any leather products in your wardrobe or household, Mikeb? I don't recall you claiming to be vegan--is the cheese you eat all made without animal rennet? Is the soap you use free of all animal fats?
Actually, I find the vegan lifestyle very attractive, but I like cheese too much to go for it. I rationalize my laxness by the fact that no animals are slaughtered to produce cheese. I know you could attack that, but don't bother. Same with the leather products. I avoid them but not rigidly. I keep telling you I'm a reasonable kinda guy.
DeleteAbout buying meat in the supermarket, you're right that is as sick as hunting, even worse in some cases.
I've been thinking about that comment, that last part. Nothing could be as sick as actually killing animals yourself, the violence, the bloodshed. Buying meat in the supermarket cannot touch that. The sick part about buying meat for consumption is that it usually involves a willful ignorance of how it gets there. The mass production of meat is abominable, which the sanitized, cleanly packaged portions on sale in shops make a big effort to conceal.
DeleteSame with the leather products. I avoid them but not rigidly. I keep telling you I'm a reasonable kinda guy.
DeleteAh--now I see. When you subsidize the slaughter of animals, that's you being "reasonable," when other people do so, it's them being "sick." Got it.
Nothing could be as sick as actually killing animals yourself, the violence, the bloodshed.
So is it your understanding that the animals who meet their fate at the slaughterhouse die without violence and bloodshed?
Buying meat in the supermarket cannot touch that.
R-i-i-i-i-g-h-t. In the same way that hiring a hit man or an executioner to do your killing "cannot touch" the sick evil of doing the killing yourself. Strange--I thought you were big on "accountability."
. . . which the sanitized, cleanly packaged portions on sale in shops make a big effort to conceal.
Wait a second--am I to understand that you object to cleanliness and sanitation in the marketing of foods that don't meet with your approval? Do you believe that buying meat is so evil that those doing so should have to contend with salmonella, E. coli, botulism, etc.?
I guess it makes a (degenerate) kind of sense--you call meat eaters "sick," and by calling for unsanitary marketing of meat, you can ensure that they actually become sick.
Kurt, sometimes you turn into a whiny little bitch. You're efforts to take a contentious counter-position to anything I say is getting to be a drag.
DeleteMy high school yearbook didn't do the fancy posed grad photos, just the passport style headshot and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Though these days, every little thing has grown into a major event. But, if they're going to let other stuff in these photos, then why not the shooting sports?
ReplyDelete"Hunting, skeet and trap are popular in the community and firearms are common, Sievering said."
And of course, this school allowing these photos doesn't seem to be a departure from other schools,
"A district official said a check with a number of Nebraska districts found that about half of them allowed such photos."
For example, you can enlist in the organized militia as a Junior in high school. There has also recently been a large growth in my state of trap shooting teams in high schools. And yes, my son is on the team.
And of course the determination of good taste is very subjective,
"Harris would have to re-take her photo, because she was visibly pregnant in her current portrait, which shows Harris and a few friends in a truck outside school."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/16/pregnant-teens-yearbook-photo-white-cloud-kimberly-haney-deonna-harris_n_3285722.html
"The school administration said yesterday that Westgate, who wanted his yearbook photo to show him in full military uniform in front of an American flag, will have the picture retaken on Monday, three days past the deadline to submit one, at the school photographer's studio. He'll again wear his Army National Guard uniform, minus his hat, and display a flag behind him."
http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/army-photo-to-appear-in-yearbook-sans-cap
If these gun loons are so afraid that they have to carry a gun wherever they go, why be so stupid to put their faces out in the world where everyone can ID them and possibly attack them?
ReplyDeleteWell, Anon, right now the world we're talking about is a high school year book. And I'm pretty sure most of these young people are too young to get a carry permit. They merely participate in some shooting sports.
DeletePervs of all sorts search these yearbooks, net, and other photos just looking for kids to pounce on.You just told them your name and the school you go to. It's easy to get an address from that info and before you know it some perv is driving those blocks. It's not a secure step to post your child's photos anywhere. The perv won't care if the child has a carry permit, that's not what he's after.
DeleteSo you're suggesting that these pervs are going to single out someone who likes to shoot as opposed any of the other yearbook photos? Interesting logic.
DeleteDid I say that? No. You are just being your usual word twisting, lying self again. By all means go ahead and plaster you kids photos all over the world.
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