Thursday, November 13, 2014

A Little Update on the Loser Pro-Gun Candidate Ladies, (and that other nutty guy)

Monica Wehby lost, in the Oregon Senate race, by double digits. No surprise.

Michelle MacDonald lost, in the Minnesota State Supreme Court race, by double digits.  No surprise.

Yesterday, MacDonald was sentenced to 30 days house arrest, on her obstruction of justice conviction.

She thinks she's going to run again for the Supreme Court of Minnesota. 

I'm thinking after she was such a pain in the arse, that even the MN GOP won't go near her again, no matter how much she is pro-gun.

Time for a rousing round of 'get off our side, loser'.

In other news, Roger Weber, the northern Minnesota pro-gun candidate who in a fit of temper cut a garage in half on disputed property also lost by an approximately 40% margin.

Apparently when you don't use your chain saw appropriately, people are far less interested in your pro-gun views, even in the heart of pro-gun rural hunting territory.

Being pro-gun just doesn't have the bang that single-issue gun nuts would like it to have..........

15 comments:

  1. What's amazing is that gun loons like a guy who cuts a garage in half gets any votes at all.

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    1. There are a few examples of dead people being elected to political office, some rather recently. Sometimes its a matter of people making up their minds and not paying attention.
      I wouldn't have voted for the guy either. Letting someone with overt demonstrations of not respecting private property hold governmental power is only a bit better than someone who hides these tendencies until he's in the possession of the authority. Sort of a truth in advertising thing.

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    2. Do you have any examples of dead people being elected to office, or are you speaking of urban legends........or, are you referring for example to absentee ballots cast before someone died?

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    3. Often its caused by the death occurring late enough in the election cycle where their name cant be removed. There are a number of them,

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Politicians_elected_posthumously

      "At the time of Rhoades' death, he was running for his eighth term in the State Senate, making him second behind Stewart Greenleaf on the list of longest serving senators. With absentee ballots having already been mailed in the state, the county could not remove Rhoades' name from the ballot.
      Rhoades was posthumously re-elected with 64% of the vote, meaning that a special election would be held for his seat."

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_J._Rhoades

      What's really interesting is a Democratic politician who was reelected while serving time for tax evasion,


      "In 1983 he was convicted in federal court for the misdemeanor of willfully failing to file federal income tax returns, and served ten months in prison. While in a prison camp at Maxwell Air Force Base he was re-elected to the Tennessee House, defeating two opponents in the primary and winning the November 1984 general election with 60 percent of the vote."

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Burnett

      Talk about voter loyalty!

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    4. DG - it is pretty easy to find stuff with this new thing called "google"...

      http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/07/us-usa-campaign-dead-idUSBRE8A62AK20121107

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Missouri,_2000

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/10/01/five-people-have-won-election-to-congress-despite-being-dead/

      Those articles have plenty of examples for you.

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  2. The monomaniac returns!

    orlin sellers

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    1. The fuzzy thinking nut job is still here.

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  3. "In other news, Roger Weber, the northern Minnesota pro-gun candidate who in a fit of temper cut a garage in half on disputed property also lost by an approximately 40% margin."

    He lost the race, the Republicans won control of the House, much like the hollow victory in Colorado. The two Democratic seats lost to recall elections were won back, but in the end, the Republican party took control of that Senate.
    And of course, a Democratic or Republican majority doesn't necessarily guarantee anything. Minnesota's shall issue system was passed through a Democrat controlled Senate.

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    1. Some of the more obviously crazy nut jobs in MN, run by the MN GOP lost; a few of their zany crackpots did win.
      The state House was won by a few votes, and does not in practice guarantee an automatic majority for a lot of legislation. The House is likely to go back to the Dems in 2016 again.
      In contrast, in MN, there were no comparably poor and/or damaged candidates run by the Democrats. There haven't really been any comparable scandals for the Dems compared to the MN GOP either.
      The closest you could come to an equally damaged candidate to Wheby, in contrast, was that Democratic candidate in Montana, who was quite properly out of the race when it became known that he was a plagiarist as well --- and the nature of his plagiarism would be difficult to catch by anyone vetting him.
      What is more significant is that there seems to be gains made FOR gun control in Minnesota, not losses.

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    2. "What is more significant is that there seems to be gains made FOR gun control in Minnesota, not losses."

      Are you referring to the new state law that mimics federal law in regards to possession of firearms being illegal for people under a restraining order? The original text was a bit more than that, but it ended up pretty much following federal law and insuring there is due process before someone loses their rights.
      The original bill also required that firearms be surrendered to and stored by police. That didn't make it to the final bill either, but allows the person under the order to have someone not prohibited store them.
      And then there was the attempt to restrict permit holders to carry in the state capitol. Even the Democratic Governor went on record saying he didn't see the need to change that.
      Gun control legislation hasn't been progressing very well in Minnesota, even when Democrats controlled the Senate, House, AND the Governorship.

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    3. Minnesota reflects the whole country? Hardly.

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    4. Dog Gone's comments spoke specifically about Minnesota, as I noted in my comment. However, for the most part, supporters of gun rights tended to fair better nationwide.

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  4. I got to say, you do have a positive outlook on life- the “glass is quarter-full” type. When you’re football team loses 10-31, I bet you rub it in about how your team was able to put together a touchdown and field goal. Good for you.

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    1. No, overall the '31' in your example is in the Dems column in MN. Dems hold the senate, Dems continue to win in the top ballot positions, from senator on down through governor, lt. gov,, AG, Sec State.

      The margin in the House win for the MN GOP was a small one.

      And added to that glass full nearly to the top, gun control seems to be doing well in MN, and did well nationwide on ballot initiatives.

      Maybe you're the deluded optimist here TS?

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    2. I got to say, you do have a positive outlook on life- the “glass is quarter-full” type. When you’re football team loses 10-31, I bet you rub it in about how your team was able to put together a touchdown and field goal. Good for you.

      MN Democrats lost ground in 2014. They came in with both houses and the Governor, and lost one of the houses. Of course nationally it was a literal “ass-kicking” for the donkeys. If you are happy with the way 11/4/14 went by focusing on the races that you didn’t lose, then kudos to you for keeping positive. Yes, the Dems did not lose every race they ran in.

      Dog gone: “…gun control seems to be doing well in MN, and did well nationwide on ballot initiatives.”

      Plural? “Nationwide”? Was there more than one ballet initiative? What happening in Washington sucked for gun rights. I’m not desperately looking for a silver lining, but what are you talking about other than Washington?

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