If socialism is "anti-gun": explain why Vermont's most prominent politician happens to be a
SOCIALIST?????
Everybody knows that Vermont has historically had the weakest gun laws in the US.
So, please--explain away? Where are the gun grabs? Where are the genocides?
Well, Bernie Sanders is a US politician and does not write laws for Vermont. Pretty easy explanation, huh?
ReplyDeleteTwo words fer ya Pooch: Colossal Stupidity.
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The simple explanation is that he works on a federal level and not state level. Sanders has an interesting voting record in that he has voted,
ReplyDeleteVoted YES on banning high-capacity magazines of over 10 bullets.
Voted YES on allowing firearms in checked baggage on Amtrak trains.
Voted YES on prohibiting foreign & UN aid that restricts US gun ownership.
Voted YES on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers.
Voted YES on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse.
Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1.
http://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/Bernie_Sanders_Gun_Control.htm
"In 1993, Sanders voted for a National Rifle Association (NRA)-supported bill to restrict lawsuits against gun manufacturers and against the Brady Bill."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders
The video recently posted mentioned that he tends to work with the Democratic party. And speaking of the lax gun laws of Vermont, have you noticed it NOT following the assertion that states with lax gun laws have higher levels of gun violence?
Much like Minnesota.
For shit's sake, Laci, this is stupid even by your standards. Sanders isn't even part of the Vermont legislature. He has no power whatsoever over Vermont state laws.
ReplyDeleteAgain, the gunloons cannot answer the simple question.
ReplyDeleteIf Vermont is such a pro-gun state why on earth do they keep electing a socialist? Try to remember voters do not distinguish between state and national level politics.
Maybe there's something in the water that makes them believe that gun rights are actually an individual right. Or that gun laws don't control violent crime. A novel concept that seems to work quite well there.
DeleteLook at the post, Jade. The message here wasn't "why does Vermont vote for this guy?", but rather "if socialists are supposedly anti-gun, why hasn't Bernie Sanders inflicted a bunch of gun control on Vermont (being one of the most gun friendly states)". Strictly reading the text, the message the author is trying to convey is that socialists aren't that anti-gun.
DeleteMaybe Vermont is not full of gun loon idiots and hillbillies who hurt other people while being stupid with their guns.
ReplyDeleteYes, plus Vermont has no inner-city situations.
DeleteYes, plus Vermont has no inner-city situations.
DeleteWell that's interesting. When gun rights advocates point to "inner-city situations" as a major contributor to violent crime, we're accused of "racism."
When you do so, though, should I assume that we are not to conclude that you attribute Vermont's low violent crime to the fact that it's the second "whitest" state in the Union (or is it the whitest?)?
That's very interesting, Kurt. But it seems all those white gun owners have their own problems.
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But it seems all those white gun owners have their own problems.
DeletePresumably you are trying to make a point here. I don't quite know that point would be, but perhaps it can be addressed by pointing to the demographics of the state, combined with this.
Oops--the above should read, "I don't quite know what that point would be . . . "
DeleteSorry about that.
Oh--and about this:
DeleteBut it seems all those white gun owners have their own problems.
How have we expanded this to "all those white gun owners"? Wouldn't it just be the suicidal ones?
We also cannot, of course, conclude that all the suicides were by gun owners, since 40% of them were committed without firearms. In fact, your agenda would be better served by the assumption that those 40% were not gun owners, because for someone with access to a gun to choose a different method of suicide would undercut the "gun ownership is a suicide risk factor" narrative.
But don't worry, Mikeb--I'm sure the "whiteness" of Vermont has nothing to do with your contention that the low rate of "gun violence" in a pro-gun state like Vermont is due to "the quality of the people". Just a coincidence, right?
Delete"for someone with access to a gun to choose a different method of suicide would undercut the "gun ownership is a suicide risk factor" narrative."
DeleteI would guess that most of the 40% of non-gun suicides are indeed not gun owners. What do you think?
I would guess that most of the 40% of non-gun suicides are indeed not gun owners. What do you think?
DeleteWouldn't surprise me, but I can't think of any way to determine that one way or another with any degree of certainty, and absent a compelling reason to just up and make an assumption, I'll leave it as a matter of speculation.