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Naturally, he doesn't care mu
ch for a President who is black and has provided healthcare insurance for millions.
Well, it seems Richard Mack has come nose to nose with a problem.
Former Arizona county sheriff Richard Mack, a fierce opponent of Obamacare and a leader in the "constitutional sheriff" movement, is struggling to pay his medical bills after he and his wife each faced serious illnesses. The former sheriff and his wife do not have health insurance and started a GoFundMe campaign to solicit donations from family and friends to cover the costs of their medical care.
"Because they are self-employed, they have no medical insurance and are in desperate need of our assistance," reads a note on Mack's personal website.
Like all grifters, Mack seems intent on living off fellow gun nut rubes.
Nice caption on the picture. You support that kind of stuff Mikeb? In case it is changed later, the current caption says "Hopefully Dead Soon"
ReplyDeleteI'll probably change it to "Hopefully dying a slow, painful death."
Delete"I'll probably change it to "Hopefully dying a slow, painful death.""......you are everything you claim to despise Jade...Hateful ,intolerant,bigoted,arrogant,elitist
DeleteHope somebody makes sure he pays the monetary penalty for not having insurance. Then the sonofabitch can go ahead and croak.
ReplyDeleteHe is also fraudulently stating he is still a Sheriff on his fundme page. You can report him at http://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=contact/form&pid=500_When_should_I_report_a_campaign
ReplyDelete"Hopefully Dead Soon"
ReplyDeleteReally? We can always count on someone here to take the moral high ground. And since you've labeled him a grifter, do you have any information as to how they are faking the medical conditions they've suffered. Especially considering that they would been to also fool medical professionals to accumulate the bills?
Its also interesting that you take him to task for opposing the ACA, and here he is, keeping true to his beliefs and not falling back on that program. In fact, Mack is asking for voluntary contributions instead of expecting some government entity to force someone else to pay.
In fact, he's using the same method of funding that the City of Lancaster is using to pay for legal fees to avoid complying with state law. I see that the fund is over halfway to its goal in only a month. And when I visit the site, I even see what I'm imagining to be a progressive that truly demonstrates both his political beliefs, yet still seems to possess the humanity that all should aspire to,
"$50
Bob Cochran
3 mins ago
As a liberal I care about the fact that people need medical care. The Affordable Care Act is meant to get coverage for those without it because of the inability to pay. I hope you learn to care about people too."
http://www.gofundme.com/helpsheriffmack
Here is a man to hold up as an example.
SS: Man, you always miss the point. Let's remember why most Repugs oppose the ACA. It's 1.) the President is black; and 2.) they believe it's a handout for those too lazy/stupid to get healthcare. Well, in this case, Mack didn't bother to obtain healthcare insurance for him and his family Now, he's asking his buddies for a handout. See trhe irony?
DeleteIf Mack was truly--truly--holding fast to his beliefs, he'd be saying "well, I made my own bed here, so I'll lie in it.'
Instead, he's begging and grifting for all he's worth.
Remember, Mack being a public figure--he'll likely pull in a chunk of change from the rubes. But most people don't have that advantage.
Ah, Jadegold. Doubling down on the idiocy, slander, hate, and intentional misunderstanding of his opponents.
DeleteSS supports such great citizens like Zimmerman, the racist NRA's rock star, and anyone who supports open carry. His nirvana is everyone walking around with a gun.
Delete"Instead, he's begging and grifting for all he's worth. "
DeleteLook up the word grifter Jade. If this were the case with Mack and his wife, there would be no medical bills to pay for. As for his circumstances regarding his health care, I cant speak to that other than we know he doesn't have any. This likely isn't unusual for business owners, though I don't have any knowledge of what the norm is.
"If Mack was truly--truly--holding fast to his beliefs, he'd be saying "well, I made my own bed here, so I'll lie in it.'"
So you're suggesting that his only two honorable options are support the ACA or die? At least that still seems to be your fervent hope. The dying part anyway.
As for his request for help with paying his and his wife's medical expenses, is it wrong to ask for help from those willing to? Or is it only wrong to ask for people you don't like?
Look up at Mr. Cochran's contribution and comment. While voicing his disagreement with Mack's stance on the ACA, he still is willing to help and hopes that he will perhaps change his opinion.
Your comments though bring to mind someone else,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvSaDS7M4f8
I can but hope that the Cochran's outnumber the Jadegolds...
Neither you or I know the extent of Mack's medical condition, finances or bills. But, let's remember Mack is a known associate of white supremacists and has been active in the sovereign citizens movement--a grifter organization.
DeleteAgain, the point you wish to avoid is that Mack demands denying ACA to those who want and need it. If he doesn't like it--fine. Pay the legal penalty and live with your choices. But Mack doesn't want to do that; he wants others to foot the bill for his militant stupidity.
Mack is asking others to voluntarily contribute to his bills while the ACA backers are demanding that we pay for a significant portion of other people's bills (anyone under 400% of poverty level is eligible for a handout) while at the same time covering 100% of the cost of our own bills. Which one of these is preferable?
Delete" the ACA backers are demanding that we pay for a significant portion of other people's bills"
DeleteNonsense. Fact is, before the ACA , you paid *more* for other people's medical bills. Remember--when anyone showed up at an ER--the most expensive treatment--and didn't have healthcare insurance, they weren't turned away. Instead, those costs were apssed on to you and me in higher medical costs.
You also ignore the point that Mack--as a public figure--has an advantage that others do not. Suppose Joe Shmoe has no insurance and suffers a medical emergency. Who is going to crowdfund him?
Once more, Mack decided on a grossly stupid course of action for himself and his family. And that's perfectly fine--our society doesn't make retardation illegal. But when he discovers he can't pay for the medical care he needs--he should just suck it up instead of whining.
Jade - I agree that people without insurance or the ability to pay out of pocket for their medical bills should be refused treatment at hospitals or other medical facilities if the operator of that facility so chooses. There should not be a requirement to treat everybody and I believe that ERs are only required to stabilize people and not actually provide free treatment. For instance, if an uninsured patient shows up with cancer, they are not going to receive free radiation treatment from an ER visit.
DeleteRegardless of the political beliefs of this guy, he should be free to choose whether or not he wants to buy insurance. He should be free to ask anyone he wants to give him money voluntarily to help him pay for medical expenses, and medical providers should be free to treat him or not based on his ability to pay. If he can't get people to donate money to him or come up with the money on his own then he likely will not receive treatment for his problems. I am ok with that.
Now if the nation wants to provide "free" healthcare to ALL citizens then I would be ok with it as long as everyone is treated equally. There should not be government subsidies available to some people but not others. I believe this would fall under the equal protection portion of our laws.
"You also ignore the point that Mack--as a public figure--has an advantage that others do not. Suppose Joe Shmoe has no insurance and suffers a medical emergency. Who is going to crowdfund him?"
DeleteAh, so you're objection is unequal access in crowdfunding? Seems to work for someone who isn't a public figure.
https://www.crowdrise.com/BabyBlakesBattle/fundraiser/heatherbahr
" If he can't get people to donate money to him or come up with the money on his own then he likely will not receive treatment for his problems. I am ok with that."
DeleteNow there's a statement of a person of low morality and lacking the history of why Americans started help programs in the first place.
"Nonsense. Fact is, before the ACA , you paid *more* for other people's medical bills. Remember--when anyone showed up at an ER--the most expensive treatment--and didn't have healthcare insurance, they weren't turned away. Instead, those costs were apssed [sic] on to you and me in higher medical costs."
DeleteAnd this has changed how? There are still many people without insurance, they still are not turned away, they are still causing high medical costs which have not gone down since the new system took effect, and on top of all that our premiums have gone through the roof. Sorry, Jade, but your "fact" was just a false pile of spin.
Right SJ, 12-15 million more insured now! I guess you think that means there has been no change. HA HA HA HA HA
DeleteHas that lowered either insurance rates or healthcare costs Sammy?
DeleteInsurance rates are up.
Healthcare costs are the same.
Yes, health care costs are down, check it.
DeleteNow you're just lying to be contrary. At least you're consistent.
DeleteAnd you are being dishonest, typical for your side
DeleteWhere are these numbers showing declining costs--numbers so amazing that they were too cool for inclusion in the State of the Union address?
DeleteYou keep asking where are the numbers, but you refuse to check them. They are government public numbers. Stop being dishonest and do some homework. I thought you knew what you were talking about, but since you don't, you won't believe me, so only YOU can satisfy your error, check the numbers yourself.
Delete"Naturally, he doesn't care mu
ReplyDeletech for a President who is black and has provided healthcare insurance for millions."....Really The POTUS is providing insurance to millions........Perhaps had the Dems and he had the courage to do the right thing and have had gone for a true single payer system instead of this cluster fuck they have us paying for then your statement would be within range of accurate
Did all you hypocritical crybabies see Kurt's recent comment on another thread?
ReplyDeletehttp://mikeb302000.blogspot.it/2015/02/kurts-hero-bob-munden-fastes-man-with.html?showComment=1425051980046#c2668652582711496124
"Lon Horiuchi is presumably very highly skilled with a gun, and I would still happily drop a couple C-notes for tickets to see him die screaming."
Funny, not a complaint from any of you.
Funny, not a complaint from any of you.
DeleteHow many unarmed mothers, holding babies in their arms, has Sheriff Mack gunned down. Granted, we can draw a small degree of comfort from the knowledge that Horiuchi is probably still kicking himself for failing to shoot Vicki Weaver through her 10-month-old baby she was holding, thus scoring a twofer, but that's hardly sufficiently satisfying.
Kurt is upset at Lon Horiuchi because he accepted and acted under Rules of Engagement others rejected as wrong and shot an unarmed woman, in her home, while she was carrying her baby around, and at a time when NOBODY was shooting at federal officers.
DeleteJade is upset because a guy opposed a law Jade likes, is on the opposite side of the gun issue, and has a bunch of other characteristics which may only exist in Jade's mind since his only proof has been his vigorous assertions and innuendo.
Yeah, sure. Exactly the same thing.
No, SJ, Both Jadegold and Kurt made similar remarks. But you hypocritical, biased, crybabies got all over Jade for his and said nothing to Kurt. In fact, now you're twisting and lying to justify Kurt's remark. Typical bullshit from your side.
DeleteWhere is the twisting and lying, Mike? What did I say that was untrue? And has this guy also killed unarmed people like that, because Jade doesn't charge him with that.
DeleteOf what "twisting and lying" is SJ guilty?
DeleteIt's true, I suppose, that the remarks I made bear some similarity to those made by the other, although I would like to think that my wording benefitted from considerably more panache than the other's.
The difference, as SJ very correctly pointed out, is that the other's malevolent wishes are motivated by his dislike of the politics espoused by the object of his venom. Mine are motivated by the fact that the swine I want to die in agony, without a shred of dignity, is a government assassin. Even the DOJ admits to his evil:
The Department of Justice Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) Ruby Ridge Task Force Report (June 10, 1994) stated in section I. Executive Summary subhead B. Significant Findings that the second shot did not satisfy constitutional standards for legal use of deadly force. The OPR review also found the lack of a request to surrender was "inexcusable", since Harris and the two Weavers were running for cover without returning fire and were not an imminent threat.
That renders your accusation of "twisting and lying" "[t]ypical bullshit from your side.
SJ, even Kurt admits the remarks were essentially the same. Of course, he and you go on the "explain" why they're not.
DeleteSJ, even Kurt admits the remarks were essentially the same. Of course, he and you go on the "explain" why they're not.
DeleteWrong (or dishonest). I explained that the person whose hideous death I long to see is a government assassin, while the object of the other's venom is "guilty" of political leanings that the other finds unacceptable.
Get it?