If only we had "proper gun control" so that spree killers were as hampered as meth addicts...
Why does 6000 rounds matter? He didn't use 6000 rounds to do "something bad". No spree shooter has ever used anywhere close to 6000 rounds. There is already a very effective law at preventing it. It's called "Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation". Know the laws already on the books before you go asking for more.
A simple fix--lift the monitoring/restrictions on buying over-the-counter cold remedies.
And about this: " . . . no way for authorities to be tipped off that I might be planning something bad [gratuitous exclamation point]" So "the authorities" are supposed to view the purchase of a mere 6,000 rounds as indicative of nefarious intent? Bullshit. Sheer evil idiocy.
Anon, I hope you don't think they are actually quoting the guy. We've talked about this issue here before. First, the number of rounds you buy is meaningless if you can't carry it on you. The most I've ever carried at once was 210 round of 5.56 plus 39 round of 9mm, not counting my time carrying an M-60 machine gun. For example, you can buy .22 long rifle in boxes of about 1,300 rounds. Buy four boxes, and I'm up there with him on quantity. Doesn't mean that anything bad is planned though. There used to be a record keeping requirement for ammunition purchases, and if I recall correctly, it was actually the ATF who recommended getting rid of that requirement because it had never prevented a crime or resulted in any arrests. TS or Kurt, do you recall that also?
I know the ammo record keeping requirement was lifted in 1986, with passage of the Firearm Owners Protection Act. The part about that being a recommendation on the part of the BATFE sounds vaguely familiar, but I can't be positive.
"Where is your proof this guy is being misquoted? Prove it, or you are lying."
Well Anon, do you even know who he is? The best proof is that they don't name the person in either photo, which would suggest a direct quote. And of course, no quotation marks. Plus, considering who he is, it would have played repeatedly. It appears to be merely a paraphrasing of a wire story. Do you possibly have any proof to the contrary? I'd love to hear it. Keep in mind that he also bought three firearms during the same period with no notice taken of any nefarious intent.
Didn't dodge the question Anon. Again though you jump on trying to require someone to prove a negative. Of course, you could easily prove me wrong by supplying a reliable source quoting Holmes as really saying that. If it actually happened that is....
I didn't post the article SS, and it's dishonest of you to claim I'm responsible for the article. Just as dishonest as you not answering the question and simply claiming (with no proof) that the article is misquoting him. You dishonesty is confusing you.
I'm glad you don't believe that they are quoting the person pictured. I'm not confused at all anon, you just seem to work very hard to find something I say and make it into something important. Sort of a fixation, or perhaps a hobby. Hard to say which.
In this case, the authorities WERE notified of potentials danger because a mental health worker who was treating Holmes had become concerned because he had told her he was having homicidal thoughts several times a day. After contacting his mother she met with other university officials as part of a process to address potential behavioral threats and even informed the university police. The only thing that came of this was to restrict his access to some of the school buildings. Just before the shooting, he mailed the psychiatrist a notebook, which has been sealed ever since the shooting. Likely just waiting for the battle to come from impending lawsuits against the university.considering that nothing was done with all of these warning signs, what exactly are you expecting from a report of buying whatever amount of ammo deemed "dangerous"?
If only we had "proper gun control" so that spree killers were as hampered as meth addicts...
ReplyDeleteWhy does 6000 rounds matter? He didn't use 6000 rounds to do "something bad". No spree shooter has ever used anywhere close to 6000 rounds. There is already a very effective law at preventing it. It's called "Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation". Know the laws already on the books before you go asking for more.
The crybaby, kill crazy, idiot gun loon rights are so trampled on, HA HA HA HA HA
ReplyDeleteA simple fix--lift the monitoring/restrictions on buying over-the-counter cold remedies.
ReplyDeleteAnd about this: " . . . no way for authorities to be tipped off that I might be planning something bad [gratuitous exclamation point]" So "the authorities" are supposed to view the purchase of a mere 6,000 rounds as indicative of nefarious intent? Bullshit. Sheer evil idiocy.
What's sheer idiocy, is needing more ID proof to buy a cold medicine than bullets.
DeleteAgreed. Let's not double down on the stupid and just get rid of any laws requiring ID for cold medicine.
DeleteAnon, the people just need ID to ensure that the person is old enough to buy whatever ammo they are purchasing. Just like buying alcohol.
DeleteThat's not what it said SS. It's amazing you lie when it's right there in print.
DeleteAnon, I hope you don't think they are actually quoting the guy. We've talked about this issue here before. First, the number of rounds you buy is meaningless if you can't carry it on you. The most I've ever carried at once was 210 round of 5.56 plus 39 round of 9mm, not counting my time carrying an M-60 machine gun.
DeleteFor example, you can buy .22 long rifle in boxes of about 1,300 rounds. Buy four boxes, and I'm up there with him on quantity. Doesn't mean that anything bad is planned though. There used to be a record keeping requirement for ammunition purchases, and if I recall correctly, it was actually the ATF who recommended getting rid of that requirement because it had never prevented a crime or resulted in any arrests.
TS or Kurt, do you recall that also?
Where is your proof this guy is being misquoted? Prove it, or you are lying.
DeleteTS or Kurt, do you recall that also?
DeleteI know the ammo record keeping requirement was lifted in 1986, with passage of the Firearm Owners Protection Act. The part about that being a recommendation on the part of the BATFE sounds vaguely familiar, but I can't be positive.
Delete"Where is your proof this guy is being misquoted? Prove it, or you are lying."
Well Anon, do you even know who he is? The best proof is that they don't name the person in either photo, which would suggest a direct quote. And of course, no quotation marks. Plus, considering who he is, it would have played repeatedly.
It appears to be merely a paraphrasing of a wire story. Do you possibly have any proof to the contrary? I'd love to hear it. Keep in mind that he also bought three firearms during the same period with no notice taken of any nefarious intent.
News to me.
DeleteOf course you dishonestly dodged the question SS, but thanks for proving again how dishonest you are.
DeleteDidn't dodge the question Anon. Again though you jump on trying to require someone to prove a negative. Of course, you could easily prove me wrong by supplying a reliable source quoting Holmes as really saying that. If it actually happened that is....
DeleteI didn't post the article SS, and it's dishonest of you to claim I'm responsible for the article. Just as dishonest as you not answering the question and simply claiming (with no proof) that the article is misquoting him. You dishonesty is confusing you.
DeleteI'm glad you don't believe that they are quoting the person pictured. I'm not confused at all anon, you just seem to work very hard to find something I say and make it into something important. Sort of a fixation, or perhaps a hobby. Hard to say which.
DeletePointing out your lies is important, but you do make it easy by being so obvious about your lies, thanks.
DeleteIn this case, the authorities WERE notified of potentials danger because a mental health worker who was treating Holmes had become concerned because he had told her he was having homicidal thoughts several times a day. After contacting his mother she met with other university officials as part of a process to address potential behavioral threats and even informed the university police. The only thing that came of this was to restrict his access to some of the school buildings.
ReplyDeleteJust before the shooting, he mailed the psychiatrist a notebook, which has been sealed ever since the shooting. Likely just waiting for the battle to come from impending lawsuits against the university.considering that nothing was done with all of these warning signs, what exactly are you expecting from a report of buying whatever amount of ammo deemed "dangerous"?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/james-holmes-homicidal-thoughts-times-day-psychiatrist-testifies/story?id=31814357
Yep, dangerous lawful gun owners just doing their thing.
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