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Tuesday, February 7, 2012
Monday, February 6, 2012
Remember How It Is That WE Think You Pro-Gunners Who Carry Are A Hazard to the Rest of Us?
Here is a perfect example of why that is!
It is inherently more dangerous to have large numbers of people who believe themselves to be safe but are of dubious judgment and who practice questionable gun security armed with lethal weapons. A safe and civilized society where there is a RIGHT to be safe, not a right to be armed with lethal force, means that we shouldn't be subjected to the danger from your fetish objects, or your gun lunatic fantasies and fears.
This is just one more gun nut who shot himself instead of someone else accidentally, but it could AS EASILY have been an innocent bystander who was the victim, or someone else's property.
This was filed uner news of the weird, and I'd agree that the failed logic of gun nuts is pretty weird and twisted. But the underlying point is that you are more dangerous as a group of people than any claims of safety for yourselves, your loved ones or the public in general can justify for an armed civlian society.
We would all be safer with instead more and better equipped law enforcement, including surveillance and other monitoring equipment which both aids law enforcement to prevent crime, and to catch and successfully prosecute criminals. We do not need more armed Joe-Bob public idiots. Law enforcement has to have a better knowledge of the law and a more legitimate authority to enforce it. Law enforcement has to train regularly and meet minimum standards of accuracy and safety. Law enforcement is insured through their municipal or state jurisdiction for any mistakes they make - and they do make some - or for the actions of any bad apples among them. Law enforcement has the ability to call for assistance from fellow law enforcement officers, and to coordinate efforts against criminals at the time of a crime that provide alternatives to deadly force, making for a greater range of options to preclude people being hurt or killed. Law enforcement is increasingly more often equipped with alternative weapons, including tasers and stun guns and pepper spray, rubber bullets, and protective equipment, alternatives or aids to solutions involving weapons of lethal force.
Before you insist here in one of your comments about how safe and how 'good' the public is with weapons, remember this guy. And if you don't (I expect you will do your best not to think of these instances at all, and to try to deny them to yourself, as part of your pattern of intellectual dishonesty), be sure that will bring them up to remind you. I doubt most of these even merit a mention in the national news, or depending on other events, local news. But they occur, regularly.
Hmmmmmmmm.......I wonder if the person who sold this dangerous man the gun was a private seller. I wonder if he checked to see if the dangerous gun carrier was a prohibited person or not. I'm betting not.
This guy should lose his gun ownership for having an accident, particularly one in a public place. He is clearly NOT safe. And while he and people like him are carrying, or just owning, neither are we. We have a moral right to be safe - safe from all of you. Your rights should not be more important than ours.
from the AP by way of MSNBC.com :
This is just one more gun nut who shot himself instead of someone else accidentally, but it could AS EASILY have been an innocent bystander who was the victim, or someone else's property.
This was filed uner news of the weird, and I'd agree that the failed logic of gun nuts is pretty weird and twisted. But the underlying point is that you are more dangerous as a group of people than any claims of safety for yourselves, your loved ones or the public in general can justify for an armed civlian society.
We would all be safer with instead more and better equipped law enforcement, including surveillance and other monitoring equipment which both aids law enforcement to prevent crime, and to catch and successfully prosecute criminals. We do not need more armed Joe-Bob public idiots. Law enforcement has to have a better knowledge of the law and a more legitimate authority to enforce it. Law enforcement has to train regularly and meet minimum standards of accuracy and safety. Law enforcement is insured through their municipal or state jurisdiction for any mistakes they make - and they do make some - or for the actions of any bad apples among them. Law enforcement has the ability to call for assistance from fellow law enforcement officers, and to coordinate efforts against criminals at the time of a crime that provide alternatives to deadly force, making for a greater range of options to preclude people being hurt or killed. Law enforcement is increasingly more often equipped with alternative weapons, including tasers and stun guns and pepper spray, rubber bullets, and protective equipment, alternatives or aids to solutions involving weapons of lethal force.
Before you insist here in one of your comments about how safe and how 'good' the public is with weapons, remember this guy. And if you don't (I expect you will do your best not to think of these instances at all, and to try to deny them to yourself, as part of your pattern of intellectual dishonesty), be sure that will bring them up to remind you. I doubt most of these even merit a mention in the national news, or depending on other events, local news. But they occur, regularly.
Hmmmmmmmm.......I wonder if the person who sold this dangerous man the gun was a private seller. I wonder if he checked to see if the dangerous gun carrier was a prohibited person or not. I'm betting not.
This guy should lose his gun ownership for having an accident, particularly one in a public place. He is clearly NOT safe. And while he and people like him are carrying, or just owning, neither are we. We have a moral right to be safe - safe from all of you. Your rights should not be more important than ours.
from the AP by way of MSNBC.com :
Police: Man shoots self in leg at gun show
26-year-old leaving Georgia civic center when he accidentally discharged a round
SAVANNAH, Ga. — Authorities say a Georgia man is recovering after accidentally shooting himself in the leg at a Savannah gun show. Police say 26-year-old Charles Lake was leaving the gun show at the Savannah Civic Center around 5:10 p.m. Sunday when he discharged a round into his leg while re-loading his pistol.Savannah-Chatham police spokesman Julian Miller says Lake bought the pistol at the gun show on Saturday and had returned Sunday to purchase another gun. Police say he was re-loading the pistol in the parking lot because loaded guns weren't allowed inside the gun show.The Savannah Morning News reports Lake was taken to Memorial University Medical Center with an injury not considered life-threatening. No other injuries were reported.
Savannah-Chatham police are investigating the incident.
Police: Man shoots self in leg at gun show
26-year-old leaving Georgia civic center when he accidentally discharged a round
SAVANNAH, Ga. — Authorities say a Georgia man is recovering after accidentally shooting himself in the leg at a Savannah gun show.
Police say 26-year-old Charles Lake was leaving the gun show at the Savannah Civic Center around 5:10 p.m. Sunday when he discharged a round into his leg while re-loading his pistol.
Savannah-Chatham police spokesman Julian Miller says Lake bought the pistol at the gun show on Saturday and had returned Sunday to purchase another gun. Police say he was re-loading the pistol in the parking lot because loaded guns weren't allowed inside the gun show.The Savannah Morning News reports Lake was taken to Memorial University Medical Center with an injury not considered life-threatening. No other injuries were reported.
Savannah-Chatham police are investigating the incident.
Savannah-Chatham police are investigating the incident.
Police Sued for Gun Seizure
Heres's the story. The cops went out to confiscate the guns of a domestic abuser. The guy had his parents' address on his driver's license. The police went to that address and took all the guns away. It turned out the young violent man hadn't been living there and the guns seized were the property of his family members.
But, get a load of the way the lawyer describes it.
Now, really, isn't that the biggest line of crap you've ever heard? I could accept it if he'd added "with guns" at the end. It might also be pointed out that no home invasions or zombie attacks took place during that entire 10-week period. So the phrase "were unable" is a bit misleading."The plaintiffs were deprived their constitutional right to keep and bear arms in protection of themselves and their families," the lawsuit alleges. "For the entire period of deprivation, the plaintiffs were unable to engage in the fundamental, natural and constitutional right to defend themselves."
More honest would be "WOULD HAVE BEEN unable to defend themselves WITH GUNS if an incident HAD OCCURRED.
Why do the gun-rights folks have to exaggerate and lie so much? What we're doing on the gun control side is relating the facts of avoidable gun violence. Kid Shootings for example, relates one incident after another, no embellishment, no twisting, just facts. Ohh Shoot is another one, just simple reports. Even on our own blog, we report stories like this one, I admit to a little fleshing out from time to time, but the stories speak for themselves.
What's your opinion? Are the gun-rights activists a bit more creative in their arguing style than we are? And if so, why do you think that is?
Please leave a comment.
Karaoke, Fathers and Sons, and Guns
via Redding.com from Microdot
Do you suppose these guys were inner-city gang members or criminal drug dealers? That's who's doing all the gun violence, isn't it?He then went to his pickup, grabbed a semi-automatic pistol and pointed it at his approaching son who had gone outside to talk to him. The younger Oller retreated back into the residence and locked his door but later opened it after he believed his father had left the front porch.
Upon opening the door, however, he was confronted by his father, who again pointed the handgun at him. That triggered a fight, and the son was shot multiple times. He suffered wounds to his arm, shoulder and chest, John Kucera, the younger Oller's attorney, has said. He said Oller Jr. also suffered a head wound. The senior Oller suffered a gunshot wound to his leg during the struggle.
No, these are your typical gun owners who never were fit to own and operate guns.
What do you think? Please leave a comment.
Sunday, February 5, 2012
Blogroll Amnesty Day 2012
My only problem is I can't be sure the guys I link to aren't bigger than I am.
Fat White Man runs a very informative pro-gun blog, yet he's a gentleman.
Penigma is where I found co-blogger, Dog Gone. If you thought she was prolific just over here, check Penigma out.
Laci the Dog, another esteemed co-blogger, runs his own show as well.
Polrant, another esteemed co-blogger's blog. democommie
Kid Shootings, this one'll open your eyes.
The Brain Police, you could spend hours reading Microdot. I have.
Common Gunsense is Joan Peterson's wonderfully informative and reasonable blog about gun control.
Democurmudgeon is a wonderful political blog from the correct perspective.
The Second Amendment and Concealed Carry
Dennis Henigan wrote a wonderful article about some of the legal disappointments suffered by the NRA, in particular the one in Texas about 18-year-old concealed carry.
Sometimes it seems like the gun-rights extremists have to be hit in the head with a 2 by 4 before they listen up. What could be more ridiculous than saying it's a constitutional right for 18-year-olds, or anyone else for that matter, to carry a concealed weapon?The NRA’s biggest problem, though, was that Judge Cummings was careful to read the Supreme Court’s Heller opinion and understand that it does nothing to support the gun lobby’s constitutional extremism. Much to the NRA’s chagrin, Judge Cummings emphasized that the right recognized in Heller was, in his words “quite narrow,” finding that “the Second Amendment does not confer a right that extends beyond the home.” Judge Cummings cited the legion of other post-Heller rulings also confining Heller’s scope to the possession and carrying of guns within the home. Not only did the NRA’s handpicked federal judge find no constitutional right for an 18-year-old to carry handguns in public, he found no such right for anyone to do so. It is also worth noting that, four months ago, Judge Cummings rejected another NRA lawsuit and upheld the federal ban on gun dealer sales of handguns to persons under 21 years of ago, a restriction that obviously impacts the freedom of young people to have a gun inside the home for self-defense.
When a gun-friendly judge says it's not, I guess it really isn't. What's your opinion?
Please leave a comment.
Kansas Man Arrested for Threatening With his Home Defense Gun
The Wichita Kansas Eagle reports on another one of those extremely rare cases: homeowner with a gun uses it wrongly.
In many cases crimes like this one, which are clearly indicative of unfitness, get plea bargained down to nothing. And our hero continues to own and abuse his guns.
What's your opinion? Is that reading too much into the story?
Please leave a comment.
A homeowner in Kansas who gets upset at the noisy neighbors and threatens them with a gun, could very well be a CCW permit holder. But no one is checking on that. Whether he has a carry permit or not has nothing to do with this story. It does, however, have plenty to do with the outlandish low percentages they keep telling us of concealed carry guys who act badly.A man in his 30s was arrested on suspicion aggravated assault after pointing a gun at a 20-year-old man and threatening to kill him “if he said another word,” police said.
The incident occurred at 1:05 a.m. Saturday.
The suspect first broke out a window of his home in the 700 block of South Oliver, put a black revolver through the window and yelled at two men next door to stop talking.One of the victims ran to the front of the house, where he was met by the suspect who threatened to kill him if he said anything more, police said.
In many cases crimes like this one, which are clearly indicative of unfitness, get plea bargained down to nothing. And our hero continues to own and abuse his guns.
What's your opinion? Is that reading too much into the story?
Please leave a comment.
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