Mike, who publishes the very popular Sipsey Street Irregulars, opines about what is in the mind of god, and other things. Of course the obligatory school-yard threats and bully tactics are there to incite the troops.
Are these people saying "We don't trust the federal government, yet we want to see the Second Amendment incorporated against the state?"
Isn't that sort of daft?
Also, if only three percent of the colonial public supported independence and the movement which created the current mess and allows for people to justify rebellion against the government, wouldn't that mean that the vast majority may have been tories?
An armed three percent can make a mess for the rest of us: sounds like tyranny to me.
First, there aren't three percent of gunowners who would rise up against some perceived 'tyranny.' The figure is probably much closer to .00003%. Believe this: if the balloon actually goes up someday--the vast majority of threepers are going to do what they're doing today--whining, complaining, issuing toothless threats.
Second, Vanderboegh is just another one of life's losers. He's transferred the cause of all of his personal failures to the bogeyman of the Govt. You often encounter these types at gunshows.
"Also, if only three percent of the colonial public supported independence and the movement which created the current mess and allows for people to justify rebellion against the government, wouldn't that mean that the vast majority may have been tories?"
I think they meant only 3% enlisted in the Continental Army. Others supported the cause openly.
I say that ridiculous line so often heard from Mike V. and his buddies about "2 million rifle barrells [sic]," is school-yard bully nonsense.
Well, there's a way to find out for sure, but I don't recommend it. I especially don't recommend it for someone like you, Mikeb, with your strong belief in "shared responsibility." You'd be sharing in the responsibility for the creation of a whole lot of feds' widows, widowers, and orphans.
Or does the "shared responsibility" thing only apply on the side of people who don't worship an all-powerful, collectivist government?
Zorro, Thanks so much for pointing out my misspelling. You don't miss a trick.
Whatever you may believe, I wasn't simply being petty. Hell--I make plenty of my own careless errors with regard to spelling, punctuation, grammatical construction, etc.
I do dislike those errors enough, though, that when I do catch them, even in text I'm quoting, I hate to leave them uncorrected. At the same time, I don't think it's honorable to present something as a direct quote unless it is a direct quote.
I was thinking the reason people use that [sic] thingy is to point out the minor mistakes of others in order to feel superior to them. This often generates a defensive response from the guy who can't spell, devolving the entire discussion to a level of extreme banality.
I don't use it very often myself, and I certainly wouldn't use it on you whose writing and debating skills I have great respect for.
I was thinking the reason people use that [sic] thingy is to point out the minor mistakes of others in order to feel superior to them. This often generates a defensive response from the guy who can't spell, devolving the entire discussion to a level of extreme banality.
I suspect that some people do use it for just that reason--I'm not one of them (I have mentioned before, I believe, that I'm an individual, and am thus under no obligation to speak for other people's motivations). Any feelings of "superiority" I got from pointing out other people's spelling or minor grammatical errors would be short-lived, as I am a lousy proofreader--a problem exacerbated by the dinky little comment windows Blogger uses.
I hope you will excuse me from watching the clip because I just finished my breakfast and don't want to barf on my monitor.
ReplyDeleteAre these people saying "We don't trust the federal government, yet we want to see the Second Amendment incorporated against the state?"
ReplyDeleteIsn't that sort of daft?
Also, if only three percent of the colonial public supported independence and the movement which created the current mess and allows for people to justify rebellion against the government, wouldn't that mean that the vast majority may have been tories?
An armed three percent can make a mess for the rest of us: sounds like tyranny to me.
Laci
Several points.
ReplyDeleteFirst, there aren't three percent of gunowners who would rise up against some perceived 'tyranny.' The figure is probably much closer to .00003%. Believe this: if the balloon actually goes up someday--the vast majority of threepers are going to do what they're doing today--whining, complaining, issuing toothless threats.
Second, Vanderboegh is just another one of life's losers. He's transferred the cause of all of his personal failures to the bogeyman of the Govt. You often encounter these types at gunshows.
--JadeGold
"You often encounter these types at gunshows."
ReplyDeleteWhich gun shows did you encounter them at?
Mikeb says:
ReplyDeleteOf course the obligatory school-yard threats and bully tactics are there to incite the troops.
School-yard threats? Bully tactics? The version of the video I saw must be defective, because it contained nothing of the sort.
"Also, if only three percent of the colonial public supported independence and the movement which created the current mess and allows for people to justify rebellion against the government, wouldn't that mean that the vast majority may have been tories?"
ReplyDeleteI think they meant only 3% enlisted in the Continental Army. Others supported the cause openly.
I say that ridiculous line so often heard from Mike V. and his buddies about "2 million rifle barrells," is school-yard bully nonsense.
ReplyDeleteMikeb says:
ReplyDeleteI say that ridiculous line so often heard from Mike V. and his buddies about "2 million rifle barrells [sic]," is school-yard bully nonsense.
Well, there's a way to find out for sure, but I don't recommend it. I especially don't recommend it for someone like you, Mikeb, with your strong belief in "shared responsibility." You'd be sharing in the responsibility for the creation of a whole lot of feds' widows, widowers, and orphans.
Or does the "shared responsibility" thing only apply on the side of people who don't worship an all-powerful, collectivist government?
Zorro, Thanks so much for pointing out my misspelling. You don't miss a trick.
ReplyDeleteMikeb says:
ReplyDeleteZorro, Thanks so much for pointing out my misspelling. You don't miss a trick.
Whatever you may believe, I wasn't simply being petty. Hell--I make plenty of my own careless errors with regard to spelling, punctuation, grammatical construction, etc.
I do dislike those errors enough, though, that when I do catch them, even in text I'm quoting, I hate to leave them uncorrected. At the same time, I don't think it's honorable to present something as a direct quote unless it is a direct quote.
The "[sic]" is my compromise solution.
I'd like to point out that Mike Vanderboegh is a ludicrous blowhard. As a defending of 2nd Amendment rights, he's essentially worthless.
ReplyDeleteCaleb, I wish you would elaborate on your passionate statement. It makes me wonder how many factions you gun guys are broken into.
ReplyDeleteZorro: "The "[sic]" is my compromise solution."
ReplyDeleteIf you say so, man.
I was thinking the reason people use that [sic] thingy is to point out the minor mistakes of others in order to feel superior to them. This often generates a defensive response from the guy who can't spell, devolving the entire discussion to a level of extreme banality.
I don't use it very often myself, and I certainly wouldn't use it on you whose writing and debating skills I have great respect for.
Mikeb says:
ReplyDeleteI was thinking the reason people use that [sic] thingy is to point out the minor mistakes of others in order to feel superior to them. This often generates a defensive response from the guy who can't spell, devolving the entire discussion to a level of extreme banality.
I suspect that some people do use it for just that reason--I'm not one of them (I have mentioned before, I believe, that I'm an individual, and am thus under no obligation to speak for other people's motivations). Any feelings of "superiority" I got from pointing out other people's spelling or minor grammatical errors would be short-lived, as I am a lousy proofreader--a problem exacerbated by the dinky little comment windows Blogger uses.