Thursday, February 3, 2011

NRA Training in Action

Son of NE Lt Governor shoots self:
Sheehy is the son of Lt. Gov. Rick Sheehy. He is a senior biotechnology student at the University of Nebraska at Omaha.


Joel Sheehy was handling a handgun he owns when the gun accidentally discharged, according to the statement. Joel then asked his roommate to call 911.
Daddy's a big NRA supporter--I'm sure this was Mayor Bloomberg's fault.

15 comments:

  1. If the four major gun safety rules were followed, there would be virtually no firearm-related injury "accidents."

    The more correct term would be negligent discharge, because although it may have been an accident, negligence caused it.

    ...Orygunner...

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  2. We feel incredibly blessed that Joel's injuries are not life threatening," Rick Sheehy said in a statement.

    It would be even more of a blessing to have a child with at least some innate intelligence. A gun is not a toy. There is no reason he needed to have one in his little off-campus apartment. He should be in the dormitories with all the party people having the time of his life. But as John Belushi famously said, "But NOOOOO!." He had to be in his dumb apartment so he could have his fucking gun. What an idiot! If he was "getting" anything that he is studying at the university, he would get that guns are not healthy for people. Owning a gun when it is not absolutely necessary is just stupid and irresponsible.

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  3. No such thing as an "accident." Agreed.

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  4. @Flying Junior,

    Why are you so angry at this guy? I mean, he screwed up, managed to accidentally shoot himself through his own negligence, and you appear to be really pissed off about it?

    By the way, thank you for your opinion, "Owning a gun when it is not absolutely necessary is just stupid and irresponsible." Would you also say the same for kitchen knives? Or chainsaws? Or how about a machete? Or are you just biased against those evil little guns?

    ...Orygunner...

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  5. Yeah, it's got nothing to do with my politics. Somewhere along the line I just decided that I hated guns, did not approve of owning guns, believed their presence only increased chances for violence, etc. I was always taught that in a confrontation with a robber, you are better off giving up your wallet, even your car. It's not worth getting killed. Of course my parents were assuming I would not be carrying a concealed weapon. All my life I have heard of sporadic events of gun violence. Usually at a liquor store or something like that. Occasionally the bad guy gets hit. Occasionally an employee with nothing in the game gets killed for nothing. Sometimes it's a jealous fight between lovers. More often than not, somebody dies. It really doesn't bother me as much as it should. I just figure that's the price we pay for being a well-armed society.

    Actually I feel sorry for this kid. I'm sure it was his dickhead father who gave him the gun, right? I remember cutting my hand with my first Swiss Army Knife. I was only nine years old. I just can't get behind guns. If you enjoy them and they have become an important part of your life, that's great. You sound very responsible.

    I do own some fairly deadly Japanese meat cleavers. But if I don't make any enemies that want to kill me, I'll be okay.

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  6. @Flying Junior,

    OK, I think I might have made some incorrect assumptions based on your initial statements, but now you have really confused the hell out of me. :)

    Do you just not like guns, but see them (and their mis-use) as a price of living in a free society? Or do I have that wrong as well?

    ...Orygunner...

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  7. Yeah, more or less. Isn't that pretty realistic?

    I just visited Hermiston in December. Actually visited one of the big ranches in the horse district and met some interesting people. Not quite as pretty as Portland, Tillamook and Lincoln City. I think I would have rather been in a shaggy forest. But it was a nice town. My son-in-law grew up in Eugene.

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  8. "Why are you so angry at this guy? I mean, he screwed up, managed to accidentally shoot himself through his own negligence, and you appear to be really pissed off about it?"

    Here's the problem: It's bad enough the kid wounds his dumb self. But, in many cases, such incidents involve innocent bystanders who wind up dead or wounded because gunloons gotta play with guns.

    "If the four major gun safety rules were followed, there would be virtually no firearm-related injury "accidents."

    Again, the prblem is most gunloons are unable, unwilling, or incapable of following safety rules. You have to remember, gunloons are gun loons because they have a psychological deficiency. And it's really too much to expect folks with psychological deficiencies bother with things like rules.

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  9. @Flying Junior: I apologize for my initial assumption then. You seem to have a good, logical grasp of the issue.

    So what is your view of how we could help reduce gun accidents? The last I read, we were already at the lowest point of firearm-related accidental deaths for decades, but we could do better. Would you think that some mandatory public school education in firearm safety would have a positive effect? Such as "stop, don't touch, leave the area, tell an adult" for elementary school, and mandatory gun handling safety (focusing on the 4 primary rules of gun safety) for middle school and/or higher?

    ...Orygunner...

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  10. Jadegold wrote: "Again, the prblem is most gunloons are unable, unwilling, or incapable of following safety rules. You have to remember, gunloons are gun loons because they have a psychological deficiency. And it's really too much to expect folks with psychological deficiencies bother with things like rules."

    In order to verify the accuracy of that statement, you would have to define "gunloon." Is a "gunloon" someone who is negligent with firearms? In which case, I would have to agree, people that are irresponsible with firearms and don't follow the safety rules are most often "unable, unwilling, or incapable of following safety rules."

    Is that your definition of "gunloon" and if not, what evidence do you have that most of them are so irresponsible?

    ...Orygunner...

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  11. I actually just wrote a blog post about the idea. Check it out and comment!
    http://orygunner.blogspot.com/2011/02/proposed-solution-for-safer-society.html

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  12. w that Orygunner and Flying Junior as such buddies, can we get back to the argument. (for Zorro I'll say that's my attempt at humor)

    I, speaking for myself, don't say MOST gun owners are a problem. I say a certain percentage of them is and regardless of how low the accident rate is or the violent crime rate, the percentage I'm talking about is too high.

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  13. @Mikeb.

    I agree, the accident rate is still too high, and the violent crime rate is ABSOLUTELY way too high.

    The criminals I know we're in disagreement about, but accidents and irresponsible people could sure benefit from more education. What DO you think of my idea to include more gun education in schools?

    ...Orygunner...

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  14. "Again, the prblem is most gunloons are unable, unwilling, or incapable of following safety rules. You have to remember, gunloons are gun loons because they have a psychological deficiency. And it's really too much to expect folks with psychological deficiencies bother with things like rules."
    And once again Jade projects his own mental problems onto others.

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  15. Actually, What Jadegold says applies to many, in my opinion?

    Orygunner, I'm not opposed to education but I think the home's the place for that, don't you. When you start bringing it into the classroom, it quickly becomes more like preaching or proselytizing.

    Plus, let me hasten to add, I don't believe teaching kids about guns does anything towards making them safer around them. Only parental supervision or proper gun security can do that.

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