just one more infringement, and another, and another. Problem is you are never going to be satisfied until we have no rights left. Less than 8%, according to ATF, of firearms used in crimes are traced back to private sales. Criminals don't pay retail for guns when they can buy them off the street for less than $100.00.
If you want to buy a gun illegally there are much easier ways to get one than going to a gun show. Criminals tend to buy them locally rather than travel to a large convention of white guys. How many gun shows does Camden, NJ have... on that end how strict are NJ guns laws (some of the strictest) and what has that done for gun violence in Camden....nothing, hell less than nothing... they disarmed the victims making them easy prey for the vultures.
Mikeb, I keep telling you this, but you don't listen. Until you accept that owning and carrying guns is a fundamental right, any proposals that you come up with are just more things that we're having to give away.
I don't accept that, Greg. It's no more a "right" than your "right" to own a screwdriver.
Your betters have bastardized the 2A to mean that, but many people know better. Your position is so un-justifiable, you need to hang onto that fairy tale.
I do have a right to own a screwdriver. If I have a right to own property, a screwdriver is included in that. Why do you keep wanting to deny basic rights?
Are we beginning to come together, Greg? Your right to own a gun is exactly the same as your right to own any other tool, nothing more. And you spell that "right" with a small "r."
I don't care if you use minuscule or majuscule letters, the point remains. A right is a right is a right. The government has no business trying to take away my rights, and neither do you.
It is curious how many times people who would like to see a new restriction or ban say, I own a gun, or I support the Second Amendment. If you wish to take things away from us, don't claim to be one of us.
And what are you going to do about the 300,000,000 or so guns in this country that would become much more valuable on the black market if your proposals became law?
Greg, you're still confusing me with someone who wants to ban all guns, which would make them increase in value. My focus is on you gun owners, so many of whom are unfit and dangerous.
You're the one with the long list of restrictions, licenses, tests, and prohibitions. Have you noticed that controlled substances are controlled in name only? Hell, I had to insist that my students stop offering to sell me some back when I taught high school. In the world that you want, guns will be hotter than ever on the black market. There are too many to control. It's too late. Work on something that will help.
I was just thinking that the snubby pictured is similar to the one I put in my pocket when I mow the lawn--all stainless steel and aluminum to survive the sweat. I load mine with hollow point round like a good gun owner, though.
I know that you don't understand the principle, but I keep a gun available in case I need it. And yes, once a woodchuck was in my yard growling at my dog. Given its behavior, I was concerned that the animal was rabid. I called the animal control people, but they did nothing. I had my handgun available, but I didn't end up having to use it.
It was an animal that was being aggressive, rather than running away. It looked ill. As I pointed out to you, animal control in this area doesn't do much. And yes, it was a woodchuck. You see, not everyone lives in the safe little bubble of unreality that you enjoy.
just one more infringement, and another, and another. Problem is you are never going to be satisfied until we have no rights left. Less than 8%, according to ATF, of firearms used in crimes are traced back to private sales. Criminals don't pay retail for guns when they can buy them off the street for less than $100.00.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to buy a gun illegally there are much easier ways to get one than going to a gun show. Criminals tend to buy them locally rather than travel to a large convention of white guys. How many gun shows does Camden, NJ have... on that end how strict are NJ guns laws (some of the strictest) and what has that done for gun violence in Camden....nothing, hell less than nothing... they disarmed the victims making them easy prey for the vultures.
ReplyDeleteWhen you need a Visa and passport to travel from Camden to Philadelphia, and the erect metal detectors, get back to me with your bullshit.
DeleteMikeb, I keep telling you this, but you don't listen. Until you accept that owning and carrying guns is a fundamental right, any proposals that you come up with are just more things that we're having to give away.
ReplyDeleteI don't accept that, Greg. It's no more a "right" than your "right" to own a screwdriver.
DeleteYour betters have bastardized the 2A to mean that, but many people know better. Your position is so un-justifiable, you need to hang onto that fairy tale.
I do have a right to own a screwdriver. If I have a right to own property, a screwdriver is included in that. Why do you keep wanting to deny basic rights?
DeleteAre we beginning to come together, Greg? Your right to own a gun is exactly the same as your right to own any other tool, nothing more. And you spell that "right" with a small "r."
DeleteI don't care if you use minuscule or majuscule letters, the point remains. A right is a right is a right. The government has no business trying to take away my rights, and neither do you.
DeleteIt is curious how many times people who would like to see a new restriction or ban say, I own a gun, or I support the Second Amendment. If you wish to take things away from us, don't claim to be one of us.
ReplyDeleteThat's a good point, Greg. The ones you consider to be "us" are a lot fewer then you like to admit.
DeleteSomeone should write a book: Uncle Tom's Gunrack.
DeleteScott, that 8% is wrong because one of the categories of "gun source" they use is not an original source of the gun.
DeleteAnd what are you going to do about the 300,000,000 or so guns in this country that would become much more valuable on the black market if your proposals became law?
DeleteGreg, you're still confusing me with someone who wants to ban all guns, which would make them increase in value. My focus is on you gun owners, so many of whom are unfit and dangerous.
DeleteYou're the one with the long list of restrictions, licenses, tests, and prohibitions. Have you noticed that controlled substances are controlled in name only? Hell, I had to insist that my students stop offering to sell me some back when I taught high school. In the world that you want, guns will be hotter than ever on the black market. There are too many to control. It's too late. Work on something that will help.
DeleteGee, I didn't see any private sellers in that video.
ReplyDeleteI was just thinking that the snubby pictured is similar to the one I put in my pocket when I mow the lawn--all stainless steel and aluminum to survive the sweat. I load mine with hollow point round like a good gun owner, though.
DeleteWhat's that for, in case a gopher pops up and bites your ankle? Come to think of it, Bill Murray and you may have some resemblance.
DeleteI know that you don't understand the principle, but I keep a gun available in case I need it. And yes, once a woodchuck was in my yard growling at my dog. Given its behavior, I was concerned that the animal was rabid. I called the animal control people, but they did nothing. I had my handgun available, but I didn't end up having to use it.
DeleteAre you sure it was a woodchuck and not a gopher? You're reminding me of that film again.
DeleteIt was an animal that was being aggressive, rather than running away. It looked ill. As I pointed out to you, animal control in this area doesn't do much. And yes, it was a woodchuck. You see, not everyone lives in the safe little bubble of unreality that you enjoy.
DeleteWatch Caddyshack and lighten up.
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