Friday, June 1, 2012

Ian Stawicki, The Seattle Mass Murderer and Concealed Carry Permit Holder

Local news reports on a follow-up to the story we discussed a couple days ago.

12 comments:

  1. Well, well, well, you finally found one license holder who went bad. That's one out of millions. Of course, you'll be the only person not to see that this goes to confirm what I've been telling you for a long time: The vast majority of us are good citizens. Not ninety percent. Not ninety-five percent. Not ninety-nine pecent, but much more than ninety-nine percent of us are.

    But you found one. And in your mind, that's justification enough to question all of us. Fortunately, you don't get to make that decision.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Greg, you're distancing yourself more and more from the honest dialogue we're striving for here on Mikeb302000.

      This isn't one case finally uncovered, this is one case illustrative of many, too many.

      Delete
    2. But where are they? I'm being honest here. You've tried to conflate every person who commits a gun crime with carry license holders, but you've never provided evidence--only suspicion. Here you have one established case. But one out of millions isn't enough. It only illustrates other cases if those cases exist, and that's in dispute.

      Delete
    3. "One established case" today, and there have been others, which are illustrative of no-one-knows-how-many.

      Delete
    4. You can't reasonably base social policy on what no one knows.

      Delete
  2. Greg, as you know, a handful of CCW permit holders who do something bad with their gun means that the other 6 million CCW permit holders should have their carry rights revoked.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. The idiot's veto, and there's always an idiot to use it. If someone could show me a program of idiot control, I'd give it a good look.

      Delete
    2. You see Guav, that's the lie right there. Never did I suggest ALL of you should lose your licenses.

      If you have a good argument, why do you have to lie to defend it?

      Delete
    3. It's not a lie, as I explained repeatedly to Democommie. It's an interpretation. We've seen proposals and calls time and time again here to restrict who can get a license. We don't accept a discretionary licensing system. There's too much room for abuse. There's also insufficient evidence to take away a shall-issue system.

      If you would accept the principle that anyone without a record of violence has a right to a carry license, we could talk about the people who don't deserve one. But as long as you don't accept that basic right, how can we trust your proposals?

      Delete
    4. "We don't accept a discretionary licensing system."

      Tough man. You accept exactly what you're given by your government, indefinite detention, eavesdropping of citizens, foreign wars and all the rest of it. If the gun laws change, you'll accept that too, tough guy.

      Delete
    5. You're conflating again, Mikeb. I've spoken out against much of what you just named, as you would know if you paid attention to what I say. I do my part to fight the apathy of too many Americans. But you should know that there's a limit to what the general population will tolerate.

      But you call me tough guy. That's cute, coming from you. But what if I were calling for an armed revolt? Then you'd lump me in with Ready and his ilk. Do you see that anyone who owns a gun can't win with you? All you need to know about a person is whether he owns a gun, and that's everything that you have to hear to make up your mind. So be it. Live with your delusions. Just leave me and my country alone.

      Delete
  3. Lawrence Adams is a hero. Adams threw the stool at the gunman. Adams said, the real hero, was Leonard Meuse, a man of French-Canadian origin.

    ReplyDelete