Friday, January 18, 2013

Gunloon Bob Owens Has a A Plan

Upset at President Obama's remedies to gun violence, Bob Owens has a plan:
Were an angry group of disenfranchised citizens to target in a strategic manner the substations leading to a city or geographic area—say, Albany, for example—they could put the area in the dark for as long as it took to bring the substations back online. Were they committed enough, and spread their attacks out over a wide enough area, perhaps mixing in a few tens of dozens of the residential transformers found every few hundred yards along city streets, they could overwhelm the utility companies ability to repair the damage being caused or law enforcement’s ability to stop them. The government could perhaps assign a soldier or cop for every transformer, substation and switch, but they’d run out of men long before they ran out of things they need guarded. Not that the government could even guarantee to actually protect the transformers they were guarding; a residential transformer is a big, stationary target, and the substation transformers and switches and other equipment even bigger targets.  Residential transformers are easily “touched” by even a moderately competent deer hunter from hundreds of yards away, perhaps separated by roads, subdivisions, swamps or streams. Substations are a dense area target easily struck from a half-mile or more away.
Meanwhile, the lone wolves and small teams would simply shift to other targets of opportunity left unguarded by an overwhelmed and outmatched government force, of which there are many.
How many days with partial power or no power, how many nights in the dark, would it take before the local economy collapsed in the targeted area? Insurgents could cripple a city, region, or state, without ever firing a bullet at another human being.
Progressives seeking to undermine the Constitution seem to think they hold all the cards. I would warn them that they are not remotely prepared for what will happen if they attempt to cross Constitutional boundaries and natural rights.
It could be a cold, dark winter.
Tread carefully.
Wow.  Bobby's under the impression that he and a bunch of other fat, out-of-shape white dudes can bring down the electrical grid.

But let's entertain Bobby's fantasies a bit.  Suppose he and his other pudgy gunloon pals manage to do as they threaten and knock out power.  Does Bobby actually believe the eviiillll gubbermint is going to suffer and immediately capitulate to free guns for all?  Actually, after Bobby and his buddies succeed in denying power, food, heat, clean water to his neighbors.....those neighbors are going to drag Bobby and his other fat, white gunloons out into the street where the Mother of All Asskickings will take place.  Bob Owen and his pals will be begging to be waterboarded at Gitmo before they're done.

25 comments:

  1. Hilarious! You fell for some nonsense by a trained FBI agent provocateur.
    What a douche.

    orlin sellers

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  2. Goldilocks, post a picture of yourself so we can be certain that you're not a fat, old, white man. Your prejudices are obvious. What isn't clear is how much you're projecting your own insecurities and failings onto others.

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  3. With reference to the picture, my gun is bigger in both variants of diction. Also his magazines, which he has far too few of, are placed in an award position, and his vest could easily be defeated by the weakest of rifle rounds. What if his "target" packs a sawn off .338 Lupa? In any serious encounter he would be dead before he had the chance to utilize his pitifully meager firepower. More likely that his opponent will laugh and take his little toy from him and keep it as something to give to their significant other as a "ladies gun".

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    1. It's Lapua you pinheaded troll. You're a disgrace to the memory of the real Gecko who was a god among trolls.

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    2. For the record, the original troll did frequently misspell the names of weapons, among other thing. I believe that the original did mention a .338 Lapua as a ".338 Lupa" in the original post at a popular gun forum.

      Otherwise, "GKO-45" like many others here (namely those spawned by the pathetic creator of "E.N.") is a fail troll, and a poor knockoff of the original.

      In the best interest of a proper, civilized debate, Mikeb302000 (or any party responsible for the upkeep of the Blog) should delete any further comments by these fail trolls whether they be "GKO-45", "BIGBUBBA USA", "E.N." or any of his self-aggrandizing sock-puppet manifestations. This Blog deserves better trolls.

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    3. You may be right. I try to keep the commenting as open as possible. I'll think about it.

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    4. It's been a while since I read shrine of the mall ninja, so I didn't remember the misspellings, just the gradual descent into insanity.

      As for the ban hammer for trolls, it would be nice to be free of them, but if Mike wants to let them keep posting, that's his call. I just wish they'd bring their A game (or that their A game was better if that's what they're bringing). Trolling is an art form to some--not a very useful art form, and not a helpful one for our discussions here--and if you're gonna troll, have some pride in your work guys!

      I'll give E.N. one thing though, if he's the libertarian I think he is, simply posing as a statist for the lulz, he does belong in a higher class than our GKO and BigBubba.

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    5. A sawn-off .338 Lapua--the concept boggles the mind in so many ways.

      These trolls are good for a laugh, and every once in a while, they bring up notions that some people do hold. The trouble with banning trolls is where to draw the line. As in other matters, I favor freedom.

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    6. Shortly after I originally started commenting on this Blog, the troll (or deranged Statist) known as "E.N." appeared and in the absence of Laci has been the most consistent (and unpleasantly articulate) anti-gun commentator here. At first I thought that Laci had returned in a re-branded form, but due to his radical viewpoint I suspected a comeback of "Ban the NRA" (known as "banboy" for short). As I did not wish to be associated with such lunacy for being on the same "side", I ceased commenting except in rare cases of profound legal ignorance (mostly at the hands of the gun-rights crowd), or to respond to some of E.N.'s bizarre proclamations. While I can see no motive for such a display of idiocy other than E.N. being a Libertarian troll, his rants are at times taken seriously enough that at times he has hijacked the discussion as a means of petting his own vanity.

      Although I obviously appreciate the ability to comment anonymously, we cannot allow trolls to abscond the discussion to the realm of their lunacy. They seem to detract more from the debate (and their presumed cause) than they contribute, and therefore require active ostracization in order to silence their rants. The trolls are not going away on their own (and I have become tired of waiting), and so we are presented with the choice of taking action or waiting for the trolls to crawl back to the depths of the comic book-lined cave, known to the rest of us as their mothers basement.

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    7. I'm against banning, whether it be speech or guns. I just push my mental IGNORE button when I see an E.N. comment and go on about my merry way.

      orlin sellers

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    8. I think some of the more obviously trolling comments could be deleted with little harm, but I'll agree that it's hard to draw the line with some--e.g. the anonymous poster who uses "gunsucks" all the time sometimes offers argument, but often just makes inflamatory and defamatory comments. He could be considered a type of troll, but he doesn't need to be banned. (I think he should try to keep a more civil tongue in his head.)

      Our best response is probably to keep calling E.N., BIGBUBBA and GKO out, shaming them, and otherwise not engaging them unless there is good reason to address something in their comments, but to do so by addressing our response to the group rather than them.

      This will either encourage them to make meaningful contributions, or to go elsewhere to feed off the chaos they create.

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    9. For reference Ian, the commenter E.N. does not espouse Libertarian concepts. Rather, E.N. loves full fledged communism. The State is his/her god.

      Personally I think E.N. is a Chinese psyops agent.

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    10. As your side is in the habit of pontificating oneself with the Orwellian reference, think of me like this,

      I am room 101. I am the black helicopter. I am the monster of your childhood, under your bed. Fear Me.

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    11. Anonymous,

      Ian and I are not saying that E.N. espouses libertarian comments. We're saying that he is imitating a Libertarian's worst case stereotype of a statist.

      See the last line of his post above--He is trying to present himself as the worst fear. Whatever he really is, it isn't what he's imitating.

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    12. E.N., you're a cockroach. You're a fly. You're the thing I spray, swat, or step on when you won't go away.

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  4. He's not alone. There have been lots of other stupid, fat white men with gunzzz who thought they could bring down the gubermint. Here's a list of them. Let's just say things didn't turn out so well for them:
    http://newtrajectory.blogspot.com/2012/05/timeline-of-militia-murders-plots-and.html

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    1. I agree, Baldr. These fringe lunatics are numerous enough to taint the entire gun-rights movement with a sort-of silliness. Fortunately, they're mainly talk and rarely resort to actual action.

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    2. Mike,

      Until now, I've tried to address your arguments and not to hassle you with the outliers on your side, but if you are going to say that our entire movement is rendered silly by a few outlier nutbags, then you have a Lot to answer for on your side.

      We could start with E.N., or maybe Editors who talk about dragging people behind pickups. Then there are the folks on your side who want to declare the NRA to be a terrorist organization--an act that would cause it and its members to be stripped of all assets and potentially eliminated through Eric Holder approved drone strikes. Your side also has the folks who want to take people's kids away since the parents own guns, and even a few who tweet things about hoping that NRA members or their children get shot.

      Do we really want to play "guilt by association"?

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    3. That's a good point, T. I'll keep that in mind next time I take out my broad brush.

      About deleting comments, I try to keep it to a minimum. Lately, there've been a few extremely vulgar ones plus I have one person who sort-of spams the threads with the same thing over and over again. I've warned that person a few times to knock it off, so now I delete them. There not that many.

      If any of this increases, or if I decide to take the advice of those who want obvious trolling comments deleted, I'll put the moderation back on for a while. Usually a couple weeks cleans up the problems. But, I try to avoid all of this because I agree with the way Orlin handles it. I think that's best.

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    4. Thanks for that, and thanks for taking my criticism in the manner it was intended. After I posted it, I was afraid you might think I was trying to let you have it with both barrels rather than trying to elevate the tenor of the discussion here.

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  5. This fat, white, and old man line is tired. Lots of people own guns. They're from all walks of life, all ethnicities, all body shapes and sizes, and both sexes. They're young and old and in between.

    If you talked this way about a racial group, you'd be called racist. That's the nature of your thinking.

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    1. That sounds like a man with an expanding waist line talking.

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    2. If defending a group means that a person belongs to it, you must be a black lesbian. If so, I'll defend your rights as much as any other group.

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  6. I'm really disappointed that the dude in the photo isn't wearing a camouflage pattern g-string or banana hammock or whatever you call that garment.

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    1. Nah, the color of that is fine, but the ski mask should be replaced with a collander--call him Hummungus.

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