He makes all the standard gun control arguments. You disagree, so you say the arguments are ineffective and you can't stand the guy's voice. Grow up, Greg.
The standard gun control arguments have enough holes in them as is, but when Morgan delivers them, he does a horrible job of it, making them even more ineffective and making himself even more insufferable (e.g. see the discussion below about his downright wrong statement about VA).
Mr Morgan managed to make himself look dumb again. I watched the video to make sure it wasn't a misprint, but he said this:
"MORGAN: Well, no, because here is the point, Mr. Hawkins. It's Virginia, the very state you just quoted to me actually has the highest murder rate in the country. According to 2009 statistics by the FBI. " http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matt-hadro/2013/08/14/what-piers-morgan-falsely-claims-virginia-had-highest-murder-rate-us-200
I checked the data from the FBI, and he's wrong as can be. Even California, the apple of the Brady Campaigns eye had a higher murder rate. From the few times I've seen him, Morgan seems to have the habit of spouting some wild assertion with the confidence that it cant be verified or discounted during the on air interview. http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_05.html
Wow, I wonder if he would retract such a patently wrong statement. That's the first time I heard him talk about murder rate, instead of "gun death", or "gun murder". The gun controllers like to use all those metrics interchangeably, even though they are not the same thing, but I still can't guess how he arrived at something so false. Maybe he was thinking of "highest rate of out of state guns (thereby excluding New York State) traced to murders in New York City"- you know, something Bloomberg cooked up.
Mikeb, how would you react if a gun-rights advocate said something like this that favored gun ownership? You'd label the person a liar or a con artist. Remember Colion Noir? Where was your guesses about researchers then?
Morgan is impossible to listen to, but the text in the article shows that Hawkins wiped the floor with him.
ReplyDeleteIf you'd listened you wouldn't say that - oh, wait a minute. I forgot to whom I was writing.
DeleteWe've talked about Morgan before. I've never seen him make an effective argument, other than to demonstrate what an ass he is.
DeleteHe makes all the standard gun control arguments. You disagree, so you say the arguments are ineffective and you can't stand the guy's voice. Grow up, Greg.
DeleteHe's a bloviating fool. I have a limited tolerance for those.
DeleteThe standard gun control arguments have enough holes in them as is, but when Morgan delivers them, he does a horrible job of it, making them even more ineffective and making himself even more insufferable (e.g. see the discussion below about his downright wrong statement about VA).
DeleteMr Morgan managed to make himself look dumb again. I watched the video to make sure it wasn't a misprint, but he said this:
ReplyDelete"MORGAN: Well, no, because here is the point, Mr. Hawkins. It's Virginia, the very state you just quoted to me actually has the highest murder rate in the country. According to 2009 statistics by the FBI. "
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matt-hadro/2013/08/14/what-piers-morgan-falsely-claims-virginia-had-highest-murder-rate-us-200
I checked the data from the FBI, and he's wrong as can be. Even California, the apple of the Brady Campaigns eye had a higher murder rate. From the few times I've seen him, Morgan seems to have the habit of spouting some wild assertion with the confidence that it cant be verified or discounted during the on air interview.
http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_05.html
I was a bit surprised when he said VA. I expected Louisiana and then an attempt to link it to lax gun laws.
DeleteWow, I wonder if he would retract such a patently wrong statement. That's the first time I heard him talk about murder rate, instead of "gun death", or "gun murder". The gun controllers like to use all those metrics interchangeably, even though they are not the same thing, but I still can't guess how he arrived at something so false. Maybe he was thinking of "highest rate of out of state guns (thereby excluding New York State) traced to murders in New York City"- you know, something Bloomberg cooked up.
DeleteYou're surprised? You say that as if you think he could be right.
DeleteWhat do you chalk this up to? Lying, ignorance, or misspoken?
I would guess some researcher gave him bad info. I don't thing VA has ever been on the top of the list whether it's gun murders or all murders.
DeleteMikeb, how would you react if a gun-rights advocate said something like this that favored gun ownership? You'd label the person a liar or a con artist. Remember Colion Noir? Where was your guesses about researchers then?
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