Tuesday, April 29, 2014

Please explain to me: If mass shootings only happen in gun free zones...

why have there been at least two mass shootings and a lockdown at a University in Kennesaw,

Come on, you know Kennesaw, GA--it's the Melanie Hain of US cities for gun loons since all citizens are required to own guns.

And, like Meleanie--it hasn't made anyone safer.

On 12 January 2010, Three people were killed and two others critically injured in a workplace shooting at the Penske truck rental business located near the city of Kennesaw, Georgia.

Another mass shooting happened today at a Fedex facility with one person rushed into surgery for serious injuries and five others with less critical injuries.  I guess this will only be a blip on the radar despite the fact that the shooter was described as having an assault-style rifle, knife and bullets strapped across his chest "like Rambo".

It also seems that Kennesaw State University has a campus lockdown last month.

While people such as Glenn Harland Reynolds have pointed to Kennesaw's law as having a significant effect on crime, the actual data shows that any change in crime was insignificant .  Kennesaw's law was purely symbolic and was never enforced so is unlikely to have had any effect on gun ownership in Kennesaw.

Of course, if we listen to the "pro-gun" side, we should want to see more people carrying weapons and not have the police pay any attention to them until after they have killed someone.

They are good guys with guns until they start killing people.

In the case of the Fedex mass shooter, he actually was a good guy with a gun since he ended up killing himself.


  1. Laci, when you're dedicated to missing the point, why should we attempt to explain anything to you?

    1. Greg, it all makes sense now. Charlie Brooker is Laci's hero. Laci needs to take his right to travel and go to his dream world.

  2. The FedEx facility is a defacto gun free zone, this shooting occurred at a FedEx air facility. A federal security point. FedEx takes points from the United States Postal Service.

    The Penske shooting was near, not in Kennesaw. That's like being near a bottle of whisky makes you drunk. A bit of a stretch to disparage Kennesaw?

    Schools all over the country go to lockdown over the mere mention of a gun now days. And the university is a gun free zone.

    Three strikes Laci, no balls.

  3. I guess Laci was a bad guy with a gun since he didn't turn the gun on himself?

  4. "Come on, you know Kennesaw, GA--it's the Melanie Hain of US cities for gun loons since all citizens are required to own guns."

    You really should work on the paying attention thing Laci.

    "Jones said the ACLU challenged the law in a federal court just after it was passed. In response, the city added a clause adding conscientious objectors to the list of those exempt. "

    So if you didn't want to, you didn't have to. Then we have the lockdown because a guy had a cell phone in his pocket. I guess the best question here is, if you get to somewhere in there assert that Kennesaw's ordinance somehow had anything to do with these shootings, do we get to go back to the tiring counterargument regarding placed that have onerous restrictions on guns seeming to have high rates of violent crime?
    But, as we've exhaustedly concluded before, one doesn't cause or equal the other. I think you should perhaps another article about military ordinance again, at least in those a fact or two in included. Perhaps the M-29 Davey Crockett.

  5. I did see something interesting when reading about this crime, take a look and see if you see anything ironic?


    1. What the no guns allowed signs?

    2. Good eye Mike,

      We've discussed before the assertion that mass shooters target gun free zones, and I actually agree with you that they likely don't to any provable degree. But then Laci brought up the issue again by making the assertion that somehow Kennesaw's political statement encouraging firearm ownership is somehow relevant to the shooting.
      The media has also seemed to get the weapon used wrong again.

      "The security guard suffered a shotgun blast to the stomach during a workplace shooting Tuesday morning at the FedEx ground facility in Kennesaw.
      Police say 19-year-old Geddy Kramer went on a shooting rampage at the FedEx warehouse before killing himself.
      Cobb County police said they recovered a note Geddy left behind, but investigators won't say where they found it or what it said. Officers also said they found an ammunition can containing 55 12-gauge shotgun shells in his car."

  6. According to gun loons the crime rate should have dropped considerably, It did not.

    1. Anon, the ordinance passed in Kennesaw was a political statement, much like the ordinances declaring towns to be nuclear free zones back in the cold war era.