Perhaps Hillary wins? Also perhaps Democrats might lose their majority in the Senate. Then throw in the Republican majority that already exists in the House. And that spells an unproductive term for gun control advocates.
First you're optimistic and predicting a victory for Hillary. Then you're in the depths of depression predicting a republican-controlled senate. Then you don't even allow for the possibility of the nation coming to its senses and throwing out additional tea party bums in the house the way we got rid of Scott Brown and elected Elizabeth Warren? You're all over the map. Have a little faith!
Truth is, unless a person has a sense of empathy toward other human beings, (uncommon,) or has suffered a loss of someone they love or has experienced too many killings in their community, nobody really cares about gun control any more than Obama did. There are bigger problems that we have to face. Unfortunately, the ruling majority of the republican party, sincerely or insincerely, professes to an irrational love affair with weapons. That's not going to go away no matter how much intelligent Americans wish it would normalize. Our only option is to utterly defeat these extremists on each and every battleground. Only with the death of the republican party as we now know it can the U.S. ever hope to rebuild the middle class and restore affordable health care and college education.
FJ, if your side would get over its smug elitism, you'd figure out that lots of intelligent Americans, including several who comment here, support gun rights. Gun control is one element of the culture wars that Democrats should give up. It costs them votes, and it makes them vulnerable to the framing that Republicans put of them as being the party of micromanagement.
Oh, and the idea of Hillary Clinton becoming president is no cause for optimism.
Intelligent was an unfortunate choice for a word. Still, I predict that soon the norms of banning high-cap magazines and semi-automatics and automatics, requiring background checks, better tracking of weapons, etc. will simply become a matter of course for most of the states, if not federal policy. Most likely a more modern approach than was tried under Bush I and Clinton shall rule the day where distinctions between classes of weapons won't be subject to ridicule as they were under the assault weapon ban.
I don't think we will ever have strict gun control. Like I say. Not that many people really care all that much. It would be nice if your side could somehow unhitch from this NRA-inspired ideal of making or breaking a politician's career based on their pro-gun hot air rhetoric.
No rights are given by any amendment. The Constitution and its amendments recognize rights that we already have. But if you think limits are fine, you're limited to seven words a day.
Large capacity magazines were not invented until 200 years after the Constitution was written, so how could a right protecting large capacity magazines exist before the Constitution? Please show me where large capacity magazines are mentioned in the second amendment.
Anon, we seem to not have had any problems determining speech using electronic media is still covered under the First Amendment. Why shouldn't it be the same with technical advances with arms?
The key word"determining." GC claims it's a preexisting right, wrong. The law may, or may not ban certain things, but that has to go through the court process, it's not a given. And it's not unconstitutional for a law to be passed finding large capacity magazines illegal, nor is it unconstitutional for a court to uphold such a law. The people who support such laws, the lawmakers who pass such laws, and the judges who find such laws are not evil, or taking away anyone's rights, as GC claims all the time.
I like what Adam McKay Said about her: “I don’t know that we can afford Hilllary (Clinton) for president right now, she’s just too corporate and too conservative.”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Perhaps Hillary wins? Also perhaps Democrats might lose their majority in the Senate. Then throw in the Republican majority that already exists in the House. And that spells an unproductive term for gun control advocates.
ReplyDeleteFirst you're optimistic and predicting a victory for Hillary. Then you're in the depths of depression predicting a republican-controlled senate. Then you don't even allow for the possibility of the nation coming to its senses and throwing out additional tea party bums in the house the way we got rid of Scott Brown and elected Elizabeth Warren? You're all over the map. Have a little faith!
DeleteTruth is, unless a person has a sense of empathy toward other human beings, (uncommon,) or has suffered a loss of someone they love or has experienced too many killings in their community, nobody really cares about gun control any more than Obama did. There are bigger problems that we have to face. Unfortunately, the ruling majority of the republican party, sincerely or insincerely, professes to an irrational love affair with weapons. That's not going to go away no matter how much intelligent Americans wish it would normalize. Our only option is to utterly defeat these extremists on each and every battleground. Only with the death of the republican party as we now know it can the U.S. ever hope to rebuild the middle class and restore affordable health care and college education.
FJ, if your side would get over its smug elitism, you'd figure out that lots of intelligent Americans, including several who comment here, support gun rights. Gun control is one element of the culture wars that Democrats should give up. It costs them votes, and it makes them vulnerable to the framing that Republicans put of them as being the party of micromanagement.
DeleteOh, and the idea of Hillary Clinton becoming president is no cause for optimism.
Intelligent was an unfortunate choice for a word. Still, I predict that soon the norms of banning high-cap magazines and semi-automatics and automatics, requiring background checks, better tracking of weapons, etc. will simply become a matter of course for most of the states, if not federal policy. Most likely a more modern approach than was tried under Bush I and Clinton shall rule the day where distinctions between classes of weapons won't be subject to ridicule as they were under the assault weapon ban.
DeleteI don't think we will ever have strict gun control. Like I say. Not that many people really care all that much. It would be nice if your side could somehow unhitch from this NRA-inspired ideal of making or breaking a politician's career based on their pro-gun hot air rhetoric.
Large magazine capacities are not a right given by the second amendment.
DeleteNo rights are given by any amendment. The Constitution and its amendments recognize rights that we already have. But if you think limits are fine, you're limited to seven words a day.
DeleteLarge capacity magazines were not invented until 200 years after the Constitution was written, so how could a right protecting large capacity magazines exist before the Constitution? Please show me where large capacity magazines are mentioned in the second amendment.
DeleteAnon, we seem to not have had any problems determining speech using electronic media is still covered under the First Amendment. Why shouldn't it be the same with technical advances with arms?
DeleteThe key word"determining." GC claims it's a preexisting right, wrong. The law may, or may not ban certain things, but that has to go through the court process, it's not a given. And it's not unconstitutional for a law to be passed finding large capacity magazines illegal, nor is it unconstitutional for a court to uphold such a law. The people who support such laws, the lawmakers who pass such laws, and the judges who find such laws are not evil, or taking away anyone's rights, as GC claims all the time.
DeleteI like what Adam McKay Said about her: “I don’t know that we can afford Hilllary (Clinton) for president right now, she’s just too corporate and too conservative.”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWe're more than two years out for the 2016 election, and the campaign is only getting started.
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