A Nashville man came home from work to find a burglar inside his house. He detained the man until police arrived, and he didn’t even need a gun to do it. Amazing. NRA talking point FAIL.
Here’s the thing I don’t get with you gun loons: your only argument is, “I have a right to protect myself and my property,” ergo you need to keep your guns with you at all times and in all places. But you never explain why the only way you can protect yourself and your property is by killing someone. Stealing your flat-screen TV is not, at this juncture, a death penalty offense. And there are a whole bunch of ways that people can protect themselves without a firearm.
There are way too many tragedies because someone went off half-cocked and blew an innocent person away under the mistaken idea that they were protecting themselves. Thinking of Ronald Westbrook, Johran McCormick, Carl and Garrick Hopkins, this unnamed 14-year-old Colorado girl, and, of course, Trayvon Martin. The people who chose to use deadly force where it wasn’t warranted will have to live with their tragic mistake for the rest of their lives. You can’t bring dead people back.
At some point we’re going to have to decide what we value more: peoples’ lives or their property.
"Stealing your flat-screen TV is not, at this juncture, a death penalty offense. And there are a whole bunch of ways that people can protect themselves without a firearm."
ReplyDeleteYou are correct, stealing a TV isn't a capitol offense. And if I ever confront such a person, I'll be more than happy to either surrender or leave. However, I also don't believe I should be obligated to engage in a fair fight with someone who has broken into my home. And the disparity of force helps insure that the criminal will be less likely to imagine he might be able to take me.
And perhaps a better indication of the proper use of threatened force is, if you call the police to report that someone has broken into your house and he's still there, want to bet that the police officer will have a gun in his hand when he enters? So why exactly is it ok for a cop to do it, and not ok for a citizen to do it?
Most citizens are not adequately trained to handle a situation like that. You may be, but most are not and they'd be better off with no gun.
DeleteMost, Mikeb? Care to prove that?
DeleteThat's one of your favorite tricks. I express an opinion, a strong one, but still a fucking opinion, and you demand proof.
DeleteWhat's your opinion, Greg, that most gun owners are adequately trained to handle a split-second, life-or-death situation? This where you love to lie. You know damn well they're not, but you'll insist they are.
Of course, a gun control freak repeats the falsehood about Trayvon Martin, but if someone has broken into my home, that person has declared evil intentions. I'm not obliged to wait around to see if he only wants to steal from me. Besides, not being fabulously wealthy and needing many things that I own for my work, I don't see why I should have to allow someone to steal my belongings.
ReplyDeleteWith regard to defense without a firearm, I'm not aware of anyone who has said here that it can't be done. What we rational people say is that a firearm increases the odds of success in the hands of someone willing and able to use one. If you want to be unarmed, that's your choice, and I won't force you to change your decision. How about extending to me the same courtesy?
What falsehood about Martin? Did Martin break into someone's home? Was Martin window peeping, or endangering life, or property? It's only Zims word that he was attacked, and with his record I wouldn't believe a word he says. If you want to believe a proven liar and violent person, that's your error of choice. Proving again you have no skills at rational thinking.
DeleteGreg, wake the fuck up and pay attention, will ya? Some of the people who break into homes are not evil intentioned, they're lost or drunk or the actual residents of that home.
DeleteMike, Greg is like most gunsucks, a gutless coward who is afraid of dust and bunnies. Gunsucks are all cowards.
DeleteMikeb, I am awake. You're the one stuck in delusions. You're the one sympathizing with thugs and drunks.
DeletePOed Lib, I post under my own name. It's so cute when you call me a coward anonymously.
It's the old name thing with GC. Posting under your own name GC (if that is your name, we have no way of knowing) doesn't make you more rational, or honest. Try posting under anonymous and lets see if you do become more rational and honest.
DeleteI used to post under my own name. Some fuckass conservaturd used my name and address to subscribe me to porno, commemorative dog sculpture series, etc. I no longer voluntarily out myself.
Deletelove the homophobic slurs by the tolerant progressives here
DeleteGreg: "You're the one sympathizing with thugs and drunks."
DeleteIt's not sympathizing with thugs and drunks to insist that they don't deserve to die just because you can get away with it.
Mikeb, you sympathize with them. You defend them instead of good citizens. But don't stop. Americans love control freaks who stand up for criminals.
DeleteGC,
DeleteWho is defending the MAJORITY of good people who don't own guns and are sick of this gun culture that causes mass death and injuries? Certainly not your side that calls any little action, or regulation (that is not even an infringement on the second amendment) evil people. These evil people as you call then want to see an end to the mass death by guns. Seems your side are the evil ones who support the continuation of mass gun deaths.