Friday, September 5, 2014

Bumbling Idaho Professor (not Student) with Concealed Carry Permit Accidentally Shoots the Himself - No Charges Expected

Local news reports

An Idaho State University instructor was wounded in the foot after a concealed handgun in the person's pocket discharged during a chemistry lab session with students in the room.

Police said the person had the proper permits to carry a concealed weapon on campus.

Idaho State University spokeswoman Adrienne King said there could be an administrative review after police complete their investigation.

King said the school has an alert system but didn't use it because police quickly determined the shooting was an isolated incident.

"It's unfortunate," ISU President Arthur Vailas told the Idaho State Journal. "I'm sure the incident was scary and embarrassing."

Despite opposition from every public university college president, lawmakers passed legislation earlier this year allowing retired law enforcement officers and people with concealed-carry permits to take firearms onto public college and university campuses but not into dormitories or stadiums.

Yeah, "scary and embarrassing," but given the extreme nonchalance with which this incident was met, don't expect the bumbling permit holder to be held accountable. It was just an accident.

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  2. If you allow cars on campus there will be an occasional accident, and so with guns. The solution is better education about holsters to prevent loose objects touching the trigger.

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    1. Another idiot car comparison from a gun loon.

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    2. Very poor analogy. For starters, cars are a privilege, and they are usually limited on campus through permits, parking restrictions, etc. They are far more of a justifiable necessity than firearms.

      You can damn well bet that if a student harmed an instructor through negligence, that student would lose the right to drive, lose the right to a car on campus and might very well be expelled from the student body if the negligence posed an ongoing risk to more than just the person who was injured, as is clearly the case here. That would be doubly true if the vehicle involved ended up in the classroom - another failing in your analogy, given how unlikely that would be.
      Further, this only goes to demonstrate why it is that those who carry are NOT SAFE, NOT CAREFUL, NOT RESPONSIBLE, NOT QUALIFIED, and why therefore we should NOT have people carry 'just because we wanna' because of the obvious risk it creates for everyone else.

      And fyi -- this does appear to be two separate incidents, one where the prof shot himself, and one where a student injured an instructor/professor.

      I could see Campy shooting himself in the foot (or worse, with his belt-carry) in front of a class of students -- if he has any.

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    3. Driving is a privilege? Ha! That's a myth used by parents and drivers ed teachers to scare kids. Driving is a right, which may be taken away only for statutorily specified reasons. I challenge you to cite any US legal jurisdiction where drivers licenses are may-issue.

      Therefore everything that follows from your flawed premise is incorrect.

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    4. I challenge you to show where in the Constitution it says driving is a right.

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    5. Not needed; ninth amendment. And the right is codified in laws of all 50 states.

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    6. I don't know of any State that makes driving a right. Citations (proof) please.

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    7. Cite any state that can arbitrarily revoke or deny a driver's license. If you can't then it is a right.

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    8. That kind of logic from an attorney that teaches at Harvard? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

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  3. Mike, I believe it was the instructor that had the negligent discharge,

    "Idaho State University teacher accidentally shoots self in class"

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/idaho-state-university-teacher-accidentally-shoots-self-in-class/

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    1. I just reread the first sentence of the section I posted. You're right but does it change anything really?

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  4. This will happen often if gun loons get their way and both teachers and students are armed with guns, but the body count won't deter gun loons.

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    1. Yes, indeed, but it's not the occasional unintentional discharge that's the main problem. Every once in a while an armed student or teacher will lose it and kill a bunch of people. That's just what happens when we allow guns everywhere.

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    2. Yes, indeed, but it's not the occasional fender bender that's the main problem. Every once in a while a student or teacher will lose control and cause a fatal collision. That's just what happens when we allow cars everywhere.

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    3. That's another weak and stupid car comparison, which has been addressed so many times that you're a drag, man.

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