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The NRA and other unrestricted gun deaths organizations actual membership is small akin to the KKK and with the same goals.
Actually, the KKK was one of America's first "gun control" advocacy groups (if not THE first).
Not quite the wanted gun control for some people. Just like now gun nuts are fine when some unarmed people are murdered by 2nd amendment heroes.
Not quite the [sic] wanted gun control for some people.Of course the KKK wanted the "gun control" to be selective. How is that different from any other "gun control" organization? The various groups who favor "gun control," like the Brady Campaign, "Americans for Responsible Solutions," "Everytown for Gun Safety" (including the child porn connoisseurs and other sordid criminals of "Mayors Against Illegal Guns," and the Joseph Goebbels groupies of "Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America"), and ISIS all want the "gun control" to be selective. Do you think any of them want to disarm the enforcers?Of course not, because those groups count on their docile servility to those in power as assurance that those guns will only be used against their enemies.
Talk about sick, you compare Brady (a guy disabled for life because of being shot) and Moms whose children had been killed by gun shot, to Nazis and KKK members. This is why you are called gun loons and why in the long run you will lose. Americans won't swallow that sick kind of thinking.
Um, "Nazis," Anon? It was a Moms Demand Action chapter leader who says that Goebbels has provided us with "wise words to live by."
"Talk about sick, you compare Brady (a guy disabled for life because of being shot) and Moms whose children had been killed by gun shot, to Nazis and KKK members." You need to keep up with the news Anon. Brady passed away a bit ago. We even discussed it here. And Grungegene, someone who I believe is on your side of the issue brought up the KKK and attempting to link the NRA to them. Kurt brought up, quite correctly that gun control was used by Democrats in the southern states to disarm minorities so they could easily be victimized by the KKK.
Shove it SS, I'm aware Brady died, his organization goes on. You just like being a lying, smart ass, asshole don't you. Got anything better than childish insults? Gun loons like you who promote killings never have anything better than childish insults. Enjoy yourself.
"Got anything better than childish insults?" I don't recall insulting you Anon. You do seem to be getting a little wound up though.
I don't keep up with the news? Just another lie about me from you. I'm not getting worked up, but a continues liar deserves no respect, so get used to it.
"Um, "Nazis," Anon? It was a Moms Demand Action chapter leader who says that Goebbels has provided us with "wise words to live by.""Not like you to point out what I suppose is an obscure remark taken out of context which might be construed as some kind of a victory for you, without a link.
Without a link, Mikeb? wrong: . . . and the Joseph Goebbels groupies of "Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America" . . . I suppose it's fair to say that it continues to be "not like [me]" to fail to back up my accusations with verifiable evidence. I can think of someone for whom that cannot be honestly said, though.
Now that you know the context of the remark, Mike, I look forward to seeing your apology to Kurt and hearing your response.
I do hope you're not holding your breath, Anon. . . . an obscure remark taken out of context . . . Yeah, Mikeb, about that "context" thing--have you yet come up with any possible "context" in which it would not be enormously embarrassing to have been caught saying, "Mr. Goebbels' words are wise words to live by"?Now I'm going to be generous here, give her the benefit of the doubt, and assume that she didn't realize who Goebbels was, or that she was touting Nazi propaganda as "wise words to live by." In short, I'm willing to admit that she's probably not a fan of Nazism, and is instead "merely" an astonishingly ignorant, historically illiterate testament to the fact that evolution is far from perfect (especially given that she's apparently a "Mom").Now, if you argue that as a "gun control" advocate, it's grossly unfair to hold her to the intellectual standards of normal human beings, rather than tapeworms, you'll have an argument that I can't really refute.Still, forget that it's Nazi propaganda that she finds so "wise." Consider what she (and Goebbels) said:If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.Basically, she (and her newly discovered font of widom) are arguing that if you object to attacks on your privacy, you must be up to no good. Does that not bother you?Hey, wait a minute--speaking of privacy, wasn't the Roe v. Wade decision based on privacy concerns?
Not only taken out of context but quoted from the Twitter account of an "employee" of the Moms. You, then, make the entire organization responsible for what this one person said.Plus, there is nothing wrong with quoting someone and applying that quote to another situation, even someone who lives in infamy like a famous Nazi.But, being the desperate petty crybabies that you are, you find it necessary to trump up any and everything you can find to make personal attacks on your, what you much see as, enemies.I saw your kindred spirit, Linoge, was on it too.
Have it your way, Mikeb--the leader of the MDA New York chapter is not an idiot for being blissfully unaware of who Goebbels was. Hell, what damned good is history, anyway--maybe she wants to repeat it.
You, then, make the entire organization responsible for what this one person said.Oh--are we not to do that now? I guess that means you'll tell commenters to stop trying to hold the NRA responsible for what Ted Nugent says.Ha! Just kidding--I know it doesn't mean that, since you set such vastly different rules for your team.
Well, Ted Nugent's position in the NRA is a bit different than that of this woman you caught on Twitter in the MOM's organization. Nice try, though.Taking a Goebbels quote OUT OF CONTEXT and applying it to something else doesn't mean shit, and you know it. It certainly wouldn't make one a Nazi sympathizer. But, keep doing what you do best, twisting, pretending and lying.
Well, Ted Nugent's position in the NRA is a bit different than that of this woman you caught on Twitter in the MOM's organization.Yes, I suppose "a bit different" is an adequate description of the relationship between member of the board of directors, on the one hand, and leader of the New York chapter, on the other. Whether that "bit" of a difference is so great as to make the entire NRA responsible for Nugent's words, while MDA as a whole shares none of Martin's guilt, is a matter of subjective opinion, I suppose. It would seem that your opinion on this is at odds with mine (hardly surprising).In any case, if Nugent's position on the board makes the entire organization responsible for whatever he says, I would think that whatever Martin says, as leader of the chapter, must certainly reflect on that entire chapter, even if the rest of the organization can wash their hands of her idiocy.Taking a Goebbels quote OUT OF CONTEXT . . . Again, I'm having trouble conceiving of a "context" in which saying "Mr. Goebbels' words are wise words to live by" could ever be anything less than grotesquely offensive, but I'm all ears if you think of one. Then, of course, there's the matter of the quote itself, which basically says that a desire to protect one's privacy should be viewed as an indication of wrongdoing on the part of the one who's privacy is threatened. Take out the Nazi connection altogether, and that's still obscene.It certainly wouldn't make one a Nazi sympathizer.I thought I had conceded that pretty much from the beginning.But, keep doing what you do best, twisting, pretending and lying.No twisting, no pretending, and as always, certainly no "lying"--just plain statement of truths you would prefer not to face.
Your twisting and pretending and disingenuous bullshit has no limit, does it?I never said the MOM member's remark was taken out of context, as you well know. I said the Goebbels' remark was.And I repeat, quoting someone, ANYONE, and applying the quote to a situation, ANY SITUATION, can never be wrong, let alone "grotesquely offensive" or whatever other ridiculously exaggerated ways you came up with to describe it. Unless, of course, you want to trump up an attack on someone you view, I suppose, as the enemy to your freedom.
Your twisting and pretending and disingenuous bullshit has no limit, does it?No lower limit, I suppose.I never said the MOM member's remark was taken out of context, as you well know. I said the Goebbels' remark was.I'm not following your distinction here. Goebbels said that, "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear," and the NY chapter leader says that's "wise." I don't see "wisdom" in Goebbels' words, I see grotesquely offensive evil.Forget what this says about her ideology. Are you really trying to argue that she knew who Goebbels was, and said that he had given us "wise words to live by," anyway, as easily predictable as the backlash to that would be?Are you really arguing that she's not an appallingly ignorant airhead?
What I'm arguing, Kurt, is that you're a lying, twisting, trickster who will go to great lengths to malign those with whom you disagree.If someone else had said those same words, would they be "grotesquely offensive evil." I don't think so. You're a phony Kurt. The more you write the clearer it becomes.
You're a phony Kurt.Nope--I'm a genuine Kurt. You wanna check my ID now?If you insist that I let your poor, persecuted Moms Demand Attention New York chapter leader and mother of the year off as an epic idiot, rather than a Nazi sympathizer, that's fine. I have no problem with that.By the way, does the fact that she deleted her Twitter account soon after her "wise words to live by" atrocity somehow not indicate to you that she (belatedly) realized she'd humiliated herself?
Phony Kurt, pretending to be SO outraged. "Epic idiot?" Really? "her "wise words to live by" atrocity." Was it an atrocity, really, Kurt?Taking down the Twitter account was probably because guys like you were attacking her so viciously for nothing.
Phony Kurt . . . Again, I'm the genuine article--no need to settle for imitations.You are of course entitled to decline to share my opinion about the atrocity of her epic idiocy. For that matter, consider yourself to be in possession of my permission (if you for some reason needed it) to deeply admire the poor, persecuted mother of the year Alison Martin. Call her a genius and a sage, if you wish.My opinion will remain as I honestly stated it to be.
Its a pretty tight race at present. And it has tightened a bit since in July, Brown was bragging of a double digit lead.(10%) "Lt. Gov. Anthony G. Brown (D) holds a nine-point lead in the race for governor in heavily Democratic Maryland, according to a new Washington Post-University of Maryland poll, with voters who cite taxes as their top concern strongly favoring Republican Larry Hogan." And gun issues aren't even mentioned as being an important issue.
Gee that's funny you once said it WAS the gun issue driving elections.
Isn't it funny how gun control is so distasteful and hateful of liberty, that they must preface it with "common sense" all the time.LawProfessor
Not really. It's more of an attempt not to scare the paranoids any further. And since when is liberty defined as unregulated gun ownership?
In the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution, and my claim of it as a natural right (more importantly). Unless you're a loony liberal who thinks it recognizes a right of the military... cuz yeah, the military needs permission to own guns. Cockooo, cuckooo.
There is nothing natural about a gun. It didn't evolve from the natural Earth. Or maybe you are one of those science denying nut jobs.
Apparently you are the science denying one. Just where did the raw materials come from, Mars? No, the earth stupid. When science was applied to the use of those raw materials we came up with all kinds of things which includes guns.So quit scratching around the chicken pen for feed and chasing hens and use your bird brain for something else than strutting around.
Now that's laughable! Took you seven days to come up with that looney logic?