Don't count on us giving up our guns, Laci. By the way, do explain how corporate money will buy my vote. I don't watch the ads, and when the candidates bicker amongst themselves, I just look on with contempt. What I pay attention to is positions and records, and those are available to anyone who can use the Internet.
Greg, you make the same failure again and again in assuming what is true for you is true for everyone - and I'm not convinced in most cases what you tell us is true for you really IS true for you btw.
Statistically, depending on what source you use, overwhelmingly it is true that the candidate who has the most money, who spends the most money, wins most of the time.
That varies from 80% to the mid-90% depending on which source covering which period of time you wish to rely on. But money as it is currently expended in politics effectively buys votes by how it controls and directs, and shapes, candidate perceptions and knowledge among the electorate in a way which was not true pre television and radio and the internet.
You might find this interesting as a fact check of that item:
There are a lot of claims on the internet about positions, some people do a better job of others on fact checking what those positions really have been. I particularly endorse the fact checkers for their thoroughness and effectiveness in assisting people to wade through the drek to do so.
Then we get the politicians that we deserve. If you want to encourage voters to educate themselves, I'm with you. I also agree that corporations are not persons, no matter what the Supreme Court says. But I'm not going to let voters shirk their own responsibility for how they vote.
Maybe now that Citizens United has put more corporation money into elections they can cut the pandering to the relgious lunatics and gun fanatics.
ReplyDeleteWhy give them bullshit about guns and abortions when you can just give them plain off bullshit.
They will happily give up their healthcare, retirements,. houses, jobs--maybe even their guns!
Don't count on us giving up our guns, Laci. By the way, do explain how corporate money will buy my vote. I don't watch the ads, and when the candidates bicker amongst themselves, I just look on with contempt. What I pay attention to is positions and records, and those are available to anyone who can use the Internet.
ReplyDeleteGreg, you make the same failure again and again in assuming what is true for you is true for everyone - and I'm not convinced in most cases what you tell us is true for you really IS true for you btw.
DeleteStatistically, depending on what source you use, overwhelmingly it is true that the candidate who has the most money, who spends the most money, wins most of the time.
That varies from 80% to the mid-90% depending on which source covering which period of time you wish to rely on. But money as it is currently expended in politics effectively buys votes by how it controls and directs, and shapes, candidate perceptions and knowledge among the electorate in a way which was not true pre television and radio and the internet.
You might find this interesting as a fact check of that item:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/oct/17/occupy-wall-street/occupy-wall-street-protesters-sign-says-94-percent/
There are a lot of claims on the internet about positions, some people do a better job of others on fact checking what those positions really have been. I particularly endorse the fact checkers for their thoroughness and effectiveness in assisting people to wade through the drek to do so.
Then we get the politicians that we deserve. If you want to encourage voters to educate themselves, I'm with you. I also agree that corporations are not persons, no matter what the Supreme Court says. But I'm not going to let voters shirk their own responsibility for how they vote.
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