Thursday, March 1, 2012

School Shootings and Where the Guns Come From


A list of some school shootings and where authorities believe the students obtained guns:

Interesting cases. Here's an example.

April 24, 2003: James Sheets, 14, shot and killed principal Eugene Segro in the crowded cafeteria at the Red Lion Area Junior High School in south-central Pennsylvania before killing himself. Police determined that Sheets used a key to take three guns from his stepfather's gun safe.
What's the solution? Safe storage laws and stiffer penalties for not properly maintaining control of your guns?

What do you think? Please leave a comment.

12 comments:

  1. The answer is simple. Don't keep guns in the home with children. Among gun-owning parents who reported that their children had never handled their firearms at home, 22% of the children, questioned separately, said that they had. And a majority of teens in homes with locked guns, when questioned separate from parents, admit they know where the key is or what the combination is.

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    1. But we know what your real goal is: eliminate guns from society. If parents don't teach their children about guns and don't own guns, how will the next generation learn? No deals.

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    2. Greg, I don't think you know what our goal is. You cannot believe it's what we say it is, because to argue against that would make you look like a fool.

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    3. No, your stated goals are bad enough. But when I add up all the proposed restrictions, I can see the real intention: to make gun ownership so difficult that few will bother. Of course, that is to say, few will bother to go through the legal process.

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  2. Texas Colt carryMarch 1, 2012 at 8:02 PM

    I just want to know WHEN parents have decided to not teach their childern anything. When did we start to provide the phony attention drugs to them. When did teachers start pandering instead of teaching. And WHY?

    Call me an old fart if you want, but when I was growing up there was no such thing as these goof-ball drugs. If you didnt pay attention, your ass got red and your attention was demanded! At home AND school. Teachers taught as much about morality as the home did, or should have. Schools did not spare the paddle, and if I learned that one of mine got in trouble in school, he or she paid for it again at home. Kids now are not taught anything past 2+2 and sometimes dont get that right. Want the down fall of any society, keep doing whats done now.

    When I was growing up and as soon as I was able to drive at 15, my pickup had a rifle and shotgun hung in the back glass and those went to school with me. And it wasnt just me, about half of the kids there had them as well as half the teachers. We had after school hunts for rabbits and fowl. Teachers would join in. In the winter we would all go deer hunting about every other day after school.

    And yes, there was a 38 revolver in the dash pocket. And again, I wasnt alone. We NEVER had school shootings. Yes we had the occasional bully, but was dealt with by the school under no uncertian terms. Or by the parents of said bully.

    So to sum up,
    We had shotguns at school in the cars, but we didnt have the internet.

    We had rifles but no cell phones.

    We had pistols but no mind altering prescription drugs.

    We didnt have school shootings but we did have the occasional bloody nose from a fist fight.

    We dealt with bullies but didnt have suicides.

    Teachers taught more than 2+2 and didnt have moral problems.

    Should I go on? I could! What has happened to everyone nowdays? I wasnt like this, my kids are not like this, my grand kids arent either and will have to wait and see about my great grandkids. But if my great grandkids are still taught, at least at home, with the same values that was taught me and passed on, I doubt seriously they will end up not like this current world either.

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    1. TexasColtCarry, you have it exactly right. But go easy on us teachers. The administration won't back us up when we ask for proper behavior. Nowadays, too many expect solutions to come from on high, rather than doing things for themselves.

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  3. Dont take it personally Greg, I dont blame the individual teacher, I blame the SYSTEM! To me, its too much government interferance pertaing to individuals. Give the schools back to the strict district control and give the teachers back the power to control the class and each student.

    Teaching kids, either in school or at home (should be both) that each individual is responsible for his own actions and the concequences there of. The government cannot do that, they cannot dictate that because the government is not there.

    I knew this growing up. But I did still get into a fight or two. Standing right beside my truck with several weapons inside and not locked and beside my truck was another with the same condtion. Between these two trucks was me and my foe. We got into it, a knock down drag out fight,,,,,,,,,, over a girl! I lost the fight, but won the girl! And married her and we are still married to this day. But the fact is that neither of us that were fighting went for guns. It never crossed our minds.

    Its not about how available the guns are, they always have been, always will be. Education at home and school is the problem.

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  4. The problem is that there should be mandatory firearm safety classes. It should start in elementary, teach those kids how to be safe at a young age.

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  5. Isn't it weird? You can talk to a liberal about any problem or issue in the world and they'll say everything can be fixed or improved with education, education, education - everything that is but guns.
    orlin sellers

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    1. I didn't notice that liberals say EVERYTHING can be fixed with education. With the problem of gun availability to the unfit, education is not enough.

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  6. Texas Colt carryMarch 5, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    I would bet that there would be far less unfit people with education. And those that would be ultimatly unfit would be easier and faster identified. Close the cracks in the education system and make it more effective and less unfits would fall thru them.

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    1. It is such a joy to hear other rational voices on this site.

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