Todd Getgen | Attorney Todd Getgen, 42, was taking his custom AR-15 to the range to squeeze of a few rounds. It would be the last thing he ever did. After arriving at a shooting range in Cumberland County, Pa., Getgen was seen by Raymond Peake, 66, a former prison corrections officer intent on overthrowing the US government. According to ABC 27, Peake coveted Getgen’s rifle. So Peake murdered Getgen at the shooting range, filling him with so many bullet fragments that the coroner who conducted his autopsy was unable to list the injuries in sequence. Until pleading no contest and receiving a life sentence, Peake had claimed that Getgen was already dead when he arrived at the gun range – Peake claimed that he was only taking Getgen’s rifle in order to help arm an insurrectionary group committed to rising up against the government.The site highlights 5 deaths including three murders. Using Google, it took about ten seconds to see that murders at gun ranges are not unheard of, like our commenter said on the other thread. He actually said it as if he'd done an exhaustive search and come up empty.
Why do gun rights folks so often think they can say anything they want and be believed? I think they actually believe they're in a battle with the gun control side and all's fair. But it makes it very hard to believe anything else they have to say, don't you think?
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What we can say is that there are tens of thousands of gun ranges in this country, visited by shooters every day. A gun range remains one of the safest places to be.
ReplyDeleteWhat exactly was said that this case disproves? FYI, you covered this murder before on your site. I have definitely heard people say that mass murder doesn't happen in places where everyone is armed because they are not going to get so far with people shooting back at them. That is quite a bit different than two people alone at the range and one shoots the other and steals his gun.
ReplyDeleteI would fire anyone who produced a target grouping which looked like that. It is possible that Americans cling feverishly to high capacity magazines due to their inadequate accuracy with a firearm. If you can't hit your target with one, then you have 29 extra chances.
ReplyDeleteA gun range remains one of the safest places to be.
ReplyDeleteFunny thing to say this week. I think the guy just had a disconnect. Guns are for killing. Why are we just playing around? Rule number one. Never kill your buddies that actually care about you. Blame it on the meds.
Did you read my explanation? Tens of thousands of gun ranges, visited daily, and what a handful of incidents? By the gun control freak logic, a gun range is safer than a school. Of course, both are safe places. The really dangerous areas are big cities, often under the control of politicians who favor gun control.
DeleteIt was fun when you disabled comment moderation.
ReplyDeleteI agree entirely. Even though I have called for the banning of certain trolls, a 24 hour comment lag takes much of the life out of the discussion. Moderation kills the debate. Many come here specifically for that purpose. You would do your cause well to abandon moderation.
DeleteAgreed.
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DeleteThere have never been a 24-hour lag, maybe half that but usually it's much less. Yet, I take your point and I'll probably go back to the way it was pretty soon.
DeleteI have never made any claims about my research skills ... and previous to the murder of the ex-Navy Seal a couple days ago, I have never run across any story of a murder at a gun range. Both statements are truthful and accurate. Further, the source that MikeB indicates is so easy to find did not exist until a few days ago according to the date of the article.
ReplyDeleteAt any rate MikeB's source plus the ex-Navy Seal a couple days ago adds up to four murders in the last 5 years at gun ranges. Something that happens roughly once a year in the entire United States is a pretty darned rare event in my book ... and explains why I have never run across nor heard of such an event.
You said, "...that I have ever been able to find." That indicates that you tried and failed, which is bullshit. You were just repeating what you're heard other lying gun-rights fanatics say.
DeleteNo one on my side said there were so many murders at gun ranges that something needs to be done. The post was in response to your bullshit that there have been NONE.