Global Research
Here’s how things shake out:
- If it were a country, New Orleans (with a rate 62.1 gun murders per 100,000 people) would rank second in the world.
- Detroit’s gun homicide rate (35.9) is just a bit less than El Salvador (39.9).
- Baltimore’s rate (29.7) is not too far off that of Guatemala (34.8).
- Newark (25.4) and Miami (23.7) have gun murder statistics comparable to Colombia (27.1).
- Washington D.C. (19) has a higher rate of gun homicide than Brazil (18.1).
- Atlanta’s rate (17.2) is about the same as South Africa (17).
- Cleveland (17.4) has a higher rate than the Dominican Republic (16.3).
- Gun murder in Buffalo (16.5) is similar to Panama (16.2).
- Houston’s rate (12.9) is slightly higher than Ecuador’s (12.7).
- Gun homicide in Chicago (11.6) is similar to Guyana (11.5).
- Phoenix’s rate (10.6) is slightly higher than Mexico (10).
- Los Angeles (9.2) is comparable to the Philippines (8.9).
- Boston rate (6.2) is higher than Nicaragua (5.9).
The thing that stands out for me is the place Chicago holds on the list. Did you see where it is? Why don't the gun-rights fanatics ever talk about New Orleans?
And so many of those cities have strict gun control in states that have strict gun control.
ReplyDeleteBut you guys never talk about the mother of all violent cities, NOLA. That's because you spin doctors like to pretend it doesn't exist as the shining example of what loose gun laws in a state can do when combined with the other Chicago-like factors. New Orleans makes Chicago look like Pleasantville USA.
DeleteFirst of all, what do you mean "we don't want to talk about New Orleans"? I've talked about New Orleans here many many times. Once again, you show how you have all the memory of a goldfish when it comes to absorbing crucial conversations about statistics.
DeleteSecond, this is "gun violence" and not murder rate. Do you remember those conversations we've had dozens of times?
Third, "..than entire countries" implies that cities aren't where the violence is concentrated. Don't compare Miami to Columbia- compare it to Bogota and see how it looks.
Mikeb, you fixate on the oddest things. If gun control worked, the cities in California, Illinois, and the northeast would not appear on that map.
DeleteGreg, you fixate on the most simplistic things. If you where in the triple-digits, you would argue that the average rate of a specific element of a population is an inappropriate metric for comparison to the whole of a separate population. If you could reach just a bit higher, you would argue that the firearm murder rate of dense urban populations (known statistical outliers) cannot be compared to the entirety of a nation, and that urban populations of similar socio-economic development in overseas nations would be a more appropriate comparison.
DeleteNow repeat, rehearse, and regurgitate on some anti-gun liberal. You would make good use of the mental stool.
"But you guys never talk about the mother of all violent cities, NOLA. That's because you spin doctors like to pretend it doesn't exist as the shining example of what loose gun laws in a state can do when combined with the other Chicago-like factors."
DeleteOk Mike, lets compare Chicago to New Orleans. If you use the FBI stats for 2012 you get a homicide rate for Chicago metro area of 7.1 and for New Orleans metro of 20.6 per 100,000. One has strict gun laws and the other doesn't.
We now seem to have data that shows that there are other issues affecting the homicide rate besides gun laws. I haven't read extensively regarding New Orleans. Does it have a gang problem like Chicago's Chief finally admitted earlier this year?
It's funny, I've been saying that about Chicago for years. But now that I shove New Orleans in your face, you agree. What you fail to see is that gun availability is one of those factors, both in Chicago and in New Orleans.
DeleteThere sure are a lot of "Blue States" represented. Those are Obama's people. Good thing they Obamacare. LOL!!!!!
ReplyDeleteorlin sellers
Notice how well socialism and gun control works abroad.
DeleteDomestic socialist ghettos, and impoverished socialist countries suffer from the same disease of Marxism. Its symptoms are poverty, crime, and sheeple.
Now if only you could find just one rural county in the entire United States with a higher murder rate than all those cities.
ReplyDeleteOf course you won't find any because there are no rural counties with higher murder rates -- even though firearm ownership rates in rural counties is sky high. What this tells us is that urban poverty and decay are almost the sole factor that drives murder rates in the United States.
Want to fix the violent crime problem in the United States? Fix the urban poverty and decay problem and you will fix the violent crime problem. Efforts to eliminate firearms is wasted effort.
-- TruthBeTold
I doubt very much that's true. I haven't seen many listings of murder rates by county, but I'll bet there are some sparsely populated places with sky-high rates. Of course, you don't want to talk about suicides in rural areas.
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