This week’s Second Amendment hero is Christopher William Strube of Centerville, Iowa, a concealed-carry permit holder who accidentally discharged his .45 while in Walmart, kept shopping, paid for his items, and left, as if nothing had happened. Take it away, Chris:
Strube was shopping Sunday afternoon with his .45-caliber gun in his pocket, when a bottle he was carrying bumped into the gun and caused it to fire one round, police said. Strube told police that after the gun went off, he paid for his items and left the store.Employees and customers said they heard a gunshot and smelled gun powder. Police later found a .45-caliber bullet inside a can of beans.No one was injured, and Strube does have a valid concealed weapon permit, police said.
George Zimmerman? Ah no! It's some other second amendment hero. But, remember there are no accidental discharges only negligent ones, but guess what shall not be infringed!
ReplyDeleteAnd why are there so many negligent discharges? Too many irresponsible people are encouraged to carry their guns around in public places because they can. They shouldn't. That is the problem.
ReplyDelete"Too many irresponsible people are encouraged to carry their guns around in public places because they can."
ReplyDeleteThat is a decision best made by the person who will be carrying. Not some government official. On the other side of that decision is that the person carrying takes on the responsibility of using the weapon properly.
Where the government gets to make the decision whether you have a good enough reason to carry, making that choice for you does not isn't required to take on the responsibility for your safety and security.
That would all be fine and dandy, if negligence was taken more seriously. Gun owners do not have to take the responsibility of using their weapons properly. This is where the government needs to step in.
DeleteNo, this is where you want the government to step in.
DeleteYou're damned right. The government should step in when gun owners misuse their weapons. Why are you defending the actions of this idiot? Do you want to be able to do that some day?
DeleteMikeb, he should pay for damages and a fine, if he did something wrong. If this was a freak accident or a hardware failure, that's a different matter. But no, I see no reason to violate his rights here.
DeleteIsn't it a crime to discharge a firearm in a residential area or in a commercial area? Should he not he held accountable for that? What about leaving the scene of an accident?
DeleteIs your leniency based on the fact that it was unintentional? What if he'd injured or killed someone, do yo still give him a pass with that paying a fine and damages bullshit?
I don't know what a bottle can do to set off a gun, and that should be investigated. You always want to jump to conclusions. But you should recognize that there are different levels of accidents. If you run over a neighbor's mailbox, that's not as high on the scale as if you run over your neighbor.
Delete"Different levels of accidents," yeah that's a good one. I suppose there's some truth in it. A negligent discharge that puts a round into the floor is not as grave as one which kills another person. Fine, but my beef is that you're too lenient on all of them. You think I'm too strict, but I'm not. I want to hold people accountable for their actions. I want people to be responsible for what they do. You like to talk tough about keeping criminals in jail longer, but you have a soft spot for negligent and dangerous people who PROVE themselves incapable of safely handling guns. You sometimes accuse me of wanting to punish people for future behavior, which is a false accusation, but in this you don't even want to punish them for what they actually do.
DeletePeople who put holes in their floors should have to repair the floors. People who put holes in another person deserve more punishment. Is that so hard to understand?
DeletePeople who put holes in the floor through negligence are doing exactly the same kind of irresponsible gun handling as those who kill people accidentally. Is that so hard for you to understand? How many of the negligent assholes who accidentally shoot people could have been disarmed earlier on if we'd only taken gun responsibility seriously?
DeleteThe typical chorus of people who like to be controlled is here to tell us that this one man is representative of the millions of Americans who are licensed to carry a concealed handgun. Gene and Japete, remind me please what percentage one divided by millions gives us?
ReplyDeleteOne man? Typical lying Greg wants to forget about the many reports Mike posts here and the stories he does not post. One man!You are laughable Greg.
DeleteGreg's comment was a double lie. Not only is this incident not representative of only "one man," but we don't say it's representative of millions either. But, one thing for sure, there are too many just like this guy.
DeleteYou've seen the numbers. You repeatedly make false claims, but that doesn't change the reality.
DeleteWhat numbers?
DeleteMikeb has been shown repeatedly the low rate at which concealed carry license holders commit crimes, but he refuses to accept valid data, since it doesn't confirm his narrative.
DeleteGreg, if I make false claims it should be easy for you to point that out without lying yourself. But, you can't, can you?
Deletehttp://www.dps.texas.gov/RSD/CHL/Reports/ConvictionRatesReport2011.pdf
DeleteThat's one example from a state where gun ownership and carry are respected. Sarge can bring up Minnesota's reports, perhaps. But you rejected this evidence in the past, simply because it doesn't support your narrative.
No, I reject it because it's obviously not based on solid data. It's like the old "90% of the GUNS TRACED" thing. These literally incredible statistics are based on THE CASES REPORTED.
DeleteThose numbers are criminal convictions. I realize that you believe we license holders are out on criminal sprees that somehow go undetected, but you need to learn the difference between fantasy and reality.
DeleteGreg, is it not possible that some concealed carry holders commit crimes and get convicted of those crimes and no one bothers to check if they have a permit? Do you think that never happens?
DeleteStill no numbers to back up what you say. Typical, for Greg.
DeleteMikeb, concealed carry licenses are on file. In too many states, they're a matter of public record. Do you seriously imagine that the police don't run a check on someone who's arrested? If you are an Arkansas resident and you get pulled over for speeding, the cop will know if you have a carry license from this state.
DeleteWhat I don't understand is why you imply incompetence on the part of the police when it comes to carry licenses, yet trust that they will do a good job enforcing your proposals, were those ever to become law.
Still no numbers, just false garbage from the lawbreaker.
DeleteI don't care who is he, what lame excuse he has, how many guns he has or if he is a member of the NRA. He is an idiot. He should NOT be allowed to own a gun and should also be criminalized for such stupidity. He could have killed an innocent person. Its about time we took these idiots out of the gun equation.
ReplyDeleteI couldn't agree more.
DeleteI don't care who he is, what his lame pathetic excuse was; he should be stripped of his rights to own any guns and criminalized. An idiot of the highest order.
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