Showing posts with label concealed carry idiots. Show all posts
Showing posts with label concealed carry idiots. Show all posts

Friday, November 7, 2014

Michelle Montgomery - The Utah Bathroom Shooter - Gets Off with a Slap on the Wrist



The Seattle Times

A Utah schoolteacher whose gun accidentally went off in an elementary school bathroom agreed Wednesday to pay a fine and take a firearm-safety class as part of a plea deal.
Michelle Montgomery has already paid $200 to replace a toilet that exploded when her 9 mm handgun discharged in the faculty bathroom on Sept. 11. She pleaded no contest Wednesday to a misdemeanor charge of illegal discharge of a gun. It will be dismissed if she pays a $705 court fee and commits no new crimes over the next year.

Monday, November 3, 2014

Missouri Woman Charged with Criminal Homicide

(Photo Credit: Allegheny County Police)Local news reports

The attorney representing a Missouri woman charged in the early morning death of her cousin in western Pennsylvania calls it the result of an accidental shooting.
Twenty-eight-year-old Stephanie Munizza of Maryland Heights is charged with criminal homicide in Allegheny County in the 4 a.m. Saturday shooting death of 27-year-old Joshua Poremski in Upper St. Clair.
Investigators said in a criminal complaint that the two had been talking about Munizza possibly getting a concealed carry permit, and Poremski offered his gun to her.
Witnesses told police that she gripped the gun with two hands and pointed it at him, and he asked her whether she would be able to shoot someone, and the gun discharged.
Defense attorney David Shrager called the death “a terrible, terrible tragedy” but said it was accidental.
“Even the parents of the descendant are insisting that this was an accident and don’t want her in jail,” said Shrager.
Police say the shooting happened after both cousins were heavily drinking.

Sunday, June 15, 2014

I understand the confusion

I know you lot don't want to be like Europe, but I understand his confusion.

Tuesday, May 20, 2014

Arizona Lawful Gun Owner Accidentally Shoots Himself While Shopping at Wal-Mart - No Charges Naturally

Local news reports

Police say shoppers at a Phoenix Wal-Mart store were sent into a panic after a man accidentally shothimself in the leg.

Phoenix police spokesman James Holmes says a male shopper's gun, which was at his hip, went off around 10:30 a.m. Saturday at a Wal-Mart near 19th Avenue and Bethany Home Road.

Holmes says Wal-Mart managers evacuated the store, which was shut down for a short time.

Holmes says the man is not facing any charges.

Friday, March 14, 2014

California Concealed Carry Permit Holder Stopped by the Police


This must have happened because cops are so in favor of civilian concealed carry.

Wednesday, February 26, 2014

Prosecutor: Firearms Instructor Who Shot Student Should Not Face Felony Charges

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Terry J. Dunlap Sr.

The Republic

A special prosecutor says no felony charges should be filed against a central Ohio firearms instructor who accidentally shot a student in the arm in his concealed-carry class last year.

The prosecutor said Monday that the shooting near Lancaster was accidental and 74-year-old Terry J. Dunlap Sr. was not acting recklessly at the time.
Dunlap, a local township trustee who is certified to teach concealed-carry classes, shot 27-year-old Michael Piemonte while he was demonstrating a .38-caliber handgun toward the end of a 12-hour concealed-carry class on Aug. 10.

Piemonte, who was not seriously injured, tells The Columbus Dispatch (http://bit.ly/1hO6spE ) that he believes Dunlap acted recklessly and should at least be charged with a misdemeanor. He said Dunlap has never apologized.

Not only that, but the bumbling instructor, lawful gun owner an concealed carry permit holder that he is, has a history of shooting people accidentally. 

Cathy Schmelzer couldn’t believe it when she read in the newspaper that Terry J. Dunlap Sr. — a firearms instructor — had accidentally shot someone.

“Oh no, he’s done it again!” she said she thought to herself. Schmelzer, 50, was Cathy Hessler, a 14-year-old Pickerington girl, when she was accidentally shot in 1977 by Dunlap during a Halloween hayride.

Tuesday, February 18, 2014

Georgia Considers Even More Special Treatment for Concealed Carry Permit Holders Who Bring Guns to Airports by Mistake


Gary Lawrence usually carries a .22-caliber revolver while out walking his dog in rural Georgia as protection against venomous snakes and coyotes. But he says he learned a hard lesson while rushing to catch a flight at Atlanta’s airport last month, the firearm forgotten in the pocket of a heavy coat.

In the security line, he took off his belt, boots and leather coat and placed them on a conveyor belt to the X-ray machine when “all of a sudden, I had about five cops around me.” One of the officers asked what was in his coat pocket. “That’s when it hit me. I knew what was in my pocket. I just sank. I couldn’t deny it. I told him the story,” said Lawrence, who has a state-issued license to carry a gun.

Handcuffed, he was escorted away to spend a night in jail, charged with a misdemeanor.

Now gun-friendly lawmakers in Georgia want people licensed to carry a gun to avoid arrest if they accidentally bring their firearms into the security checkpoint at the country’s busiest airport and willingly leave the security line. It comes as gun rights groups in Georgia push state lawmakers to broaden the places where people can legally take guns, including churches and other houses of worship.

The labor union representing airport security screeners opposes loosening laws banning guns at security checkpoints, especially after one TSA officer was killed and three other people wounded last November in a shooting at Los Angeles International Airport.

Lawmakers supportive of the plan in Georgia say some wiggle room should be allowed. They want to allow people licensed to carry a gun to avoid being arrested if they are caught at a security checkpoint carrying a firearm and obey instructions to leave. Offenders without a license to carry a gun could still be arrested.

“I would tell you that a lot of people carry a weapon,” said state Rep. Alan Powell, a Republican who supports the bill. “It’s almost like it’s just a second nature to them. And sometimes they forget where they have, you know, they basically forget they’ve got it in a briefcase or a suitcase.”
Those convicted of a misdemeanor for carrying a gun into the secured areas of Georgia’s airports could face a $1,000 fine or up to a year of probation or prison time. However, charges are dismissed against most first-time offenders if they attend gun safety classes, surrender the firearm they illegally brought to the checkpoint and stay out of further trouble. They do not lose their license to carry a weapon in Georgia. TSA officials can separately fine them up to $11,000.

Florida Concealed Weapon Permit Holder Fires Shot Inside Orlando Sports Bar, Injuring One - No Charges

A concealed weapon permit holder showing off his pistol late Sunday inside Miller's Orlando Airport Ale House and accidentally shot one victim, according to Orlando police.
John A. Smith drew the .45-caliber Kimber pistol show its safety features to a friend when he fired it into the floor, a report stated.
A piece of the bullet struck Leanabel Torres-Rodriguez, 22, leaving a small wound above her right ankle.
"Rodriguez stated the handgun was pointed at the ground when the gun accidentally discharged," according to the report. "Rodriguez stated she did not wish to press charges and signed a declination of prosecution."
The report did not indicate if Smith was showing the gun to Torres-Rodriguez.
By the time police arrived after the 10:34 p.m. incident, Smith left the restaurant at 6141 So. Semoran Blvd., later saying he panicked and drove home, according to the report.
"I'm the guy you're looking for," Smith, 36, told police when he returned without his $900 Kimber 1911 Custom II handgun. "Smith stated he was not drinking while at the Ale House."
Smith proved to police he had been legally carrying a concealed weapon by showing his Florida concealed weapon permit, the report stated. Florida has issued 1.2 million active concealed weapon permits, but does not test applicants on their knowledge of state laws restricting where and when weapons can be carried.

Friday, February 14, 2014

Michael Dunn's neighbour talks about him

Michael Dunn's Neighbour talks about him.  Are you really sure you want people like him walking armed on the street?

It makes sense that he would use the "get away with murder" laws to kill someone
 



Here the neighbour confirms his identity:

Any luck the jurors will find him GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY! 

I hope his taking a chance on a jury will backfire on him,

Tuesday, February 11, 2014

Gun Bill to Keep Concealed Carry Permit Holders' Names Secret

Police records with the names and addresses of citizens licensed to carry concealed guns should not be public documents and therefore vulnerable to publication so "criminals will know where to go and steal guns," said state Rep. Tim Copeland.
Under the state's right-to-know law, licenses to carry concealed pistols and revolvers are now public records and subject to public disclosure to anyone who asks. Copeland, a Stratham Republican, seeks to reverse that as sponsor of a bill to exclude "firearms records from public records subject to disclosure under the right-to-know law."
He has the support of local law enforcers and the National Rifle Association and said that, so far, no one has raised an objection. The impetus, Copeland said, was a New York news organization's 2012 online publication of the names and addresses for all residents in two counties who had concealed-carry licenses.
After the story went national, and was met with widespread criticism, the report was removed from the Internet.
"That gave me the idea to do this," Copeland said. "Otherwise, you're telling the criminals where to go."
Gun thieves could use the information to "case" the residences of concealed-carry license holders, wait until no one is home, and "go in there and steal guns," he said.
Gun thefts are "very common," said Copeland, a retired New York police officer and New Hampshire Liquor Enforcement officer. "Criminals don't follow laws. They go out and steal guns from legitimate people."
Portsmouth Deputy Police Chief Corey MacDonald said his department "supports the legislation to exempt gun permit information from being public." Gun thefts are not uncommon in Portsmouth where, just last month, a pistol was reported stolen from a parked car.
The double-talking gun-rights phonies can't get their story straight. First they place signs indicating that the neighbor is for gun control, assuming the burglars would be most interested in going there.  Now, they claim that thieves would target the homes WITH guns.  And supposedly the entire push of this privacy bill is to prevent theft. What a bunch of hogwash.
If they wanted to prevent theft, they'd keep their guns locked up in safes when not in use. It's that simple.
No, the reason for this initiative is another one, an obvious one.  When one of the secret concealed carry permit holders does something wrong, no one will know.  In many cases even the authorities and statistics keepers won't know. All the better to continue the bizarre claim that permit holders are super-law-abiding. They're not. They're no more law-abiding than gun owners at large for the simple reason that the bar is set so low, practically anyone can earn a concealed carry permit. There's absolutely no attempt at ensuring that they're better trained, more responsible or smarter, yet, the gun-rights movement has a lot invested in the false claim that they are. 

Thursday, February 6, 2014

What Kurt Daudt, House Minority Leader, did wrong, and why it illustrates how Stand Your Ground law is bad, and MN concealed carry permit law is inadequate

Repost by Dog Gone from Penigma:

A summary of events, from the Star Tribune last month:
The lead Republican in the Minnesota House of Representatives acknowledged Friday that he was involved in a gun-related dispute in Montana in September that resulted in his arrest and felony charges against a friend who was traveling with him.

According to the charges filed by the Park County district attorney in Montana, House Minority Leader Kurt Daudt, 40, of Crown, along with Daniel Benjamin Weinzetl, 24, of Cambridge, had traveled to Livingston, Mont., on Sept. 7 to buy a vintage Ford Bronco.

Daudt got into an argument with the seller that escalated, the records said. While Daudt and the seller argued, Weinzetl went back and pulled Daudt’s black handgun from the car and allegedly pointed it at the seller’s “entire family, including the children,” according to court records.

Weinzetl was charged with aggravated assault, assault with a weapon and criminal endangerment, all felonies. He posted $50,000 bail two days later and was ordered to stay out of Montana with the exception of future court hearings. He pleaded not guilty to all three counts in October. Daudt, who is not named in the complaint, was not charged.

Previous offenses

According to Minnesota court records, Weinzetl, a construction worker, has landed in trouble before.

His record shows multiple traffic offenses and he was found guilty in 2010 of assault on a police officer and obstructing the legal process, both gross misdemeanors, following a March 2010 incident in which he punched a man outside his home. When an Isanti County Sheriff’s deputy arrived at the house to speak with Weinzetl and his brother, Weinzetl shoved and punched the deputy, breaking his glasses and tearing his uniform. The deputy reported that he tried unsuccessfully to use a Taser on Weinzetl.
According to a statement Daudt made to the media, via KMSP:
In the statement, Daudt casts himself as a peacemaker in a tense situation. He said the friend retrieved the gun without his knowledge and stressed it was not fired. Daudt said the gun is owned by him, though it is not known if he has a permit to carry a concealed weapon in public. Daudt told KSTP that there were bullets in the magazine but not the chamber.
Daudt reports driving to Montana with the loaded gun under the front seat, and Daudt is a Concealed Carry Permit holder. While Daudt denied it to KSTP, he WAS apparently arrested in Montana, but not charged -- so far. His associate, who has been charged with multiple felonies, does not have a CC Permit, apparently, but would be eligible for one under MN law should he apply for one. The complaint can be read here.

So.....what did Daudt do wrong, and why does this reflect on Stand Your Ground laws, something likely to be introduced or attempted to be introduced, into the next session of the lege? And what does this incident show us about the problems in our current relatively lax Concealed Carry Permit laws?

First of all, multiple laws require that a firearm be transported unloaded and separate from the ammunition, in a locked container, and separate from the passenger compartment of the vehicle. This is true of state law for Minnesota, North Dakota and Montana law, and this is true of federal law. Holding a CC permit does not excuse someone from properly transporting their firearm when they are not carrying it.

Here is the MN statute, complete with link and the additional link relating to MN statute and transporting firearms:

2013 Minnesota Statutes

97B.045 TRANSPORTATION OF FIREARMS.

Subdivision 1.Restrictions.

A person may not transport a firearm in a motor vehicle unless the firearm is:
(1) unloaded and in a gun case expressly made to contain a firearm, and the case fully encloses the firearm by being zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened, and without any portion of the firearm exposed;

(2) unloaded and in the closed trunk of a motor vehicle; or

(3) a handgun carried in compliance with sections 624.714 and 624.715.

The first reference in section (3) refers to transport without a CC permit and is shown below; it is worth noting that Daudt was NOT transporting his firearm for purposes of repair or target practice; this is included here to illustrate that NO ONE may legally transport a loaded gun. It is also included here, because people who hold CC permits are expected to know the law. We should expect that to be especially true of our legislators who write those laws.

2013 Minnesota Statutes

Subd. 9.Carrying pistols about one's premises or for purposes of repair, target practice.

A permit to carry is not required of a person:
(5) to transport a pistol in a motor vehicle, snowmobile or boat if the pistol is unloaded, contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, or securely tied package.
But Daudt was NOT transporting his firearm for target practice or repair across a relatively short distance in Minnesota. Daudt was transporting a firearm across all or parts of three states. THAT puts his transportation under the regulation of the federal Firearm Owners Protection Act, specifically the Safe Passage Provision, courtesy of Cornell Law:

U.S. Code › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 44 › § 926A
18 U.S. Code § 926A

- Interstate transportation of firearms

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
"IF, during such transportation THE FIREARM IS UNLOADED, AND NEITHER the firearm NOR any ammunition being transported is readily accessible" is the relevant part of the law here, because clearly Daudt's firearm was in fact both loaded and readily accessible, apparently during the entire trip.

THAT was illegal, unsafe, and irresponsible, yet we are told over and over again by the pro-gun crowd who want to carry their handguns everywhere they go, that they are in fact law abiding, safe, and responsible. Clearly they are not, as Mr. Daudt's behavior is not particularly unusual, AND appears to have the support of his fellow MN GOP members in the lege.

But the manner of transport, and allowing his handgun to be easily accessed for an illegal purpose - to threaten a man, his wife and children - is not the only objectionable behavior by Minority Leader of the MN House of Representatives. That Kurt Daudt also did not report the crime to authorities, but instead assisted his friend to flee the state after committing what is an alleged felony is also unethical, irresponsible, and apparently illegal. Daudt does not deny providing his friend with the keys to a vehicle to enable him to leave the state. This was presumably not only to help his friend, but because leaving the state was convenient and expedient for Daudt, regardless of flouting the law.

I don't claim to be an attorney, nor do I play one on tv. But this is a common legal definition for Accessory after the fact, which is a crime. Once again, thanks to Cornell Law:

Accessory after the fact

Definition

Someone who assists another 1) who has committed a felony, 2) after the person has committed the felony, 3) with knowledge that the person committed the felony, and 4) with the intent to help the person avoid arrest or punishment. An accessory after the fact may be held liable for, inter alia, obstruction of justice.
We have an instance where Daudt knew or reasonably should have known (as a person instructed in the law to become a CC permit holder) that threatening someone with a gun is a crime, and likely to be a felony. He was present and a witness to the events, and therefore clearly knew that this occurred. And he obviously knew that he was assisting his friend to leave the state rather than to risk arrest and punishment.

As a law maker, and as a responsible adult, he should have reported what occurred, not taken off for the border. Instead he provided the means for his associate to leave the state, or at least, attempt to leave the state. Regardless of whether or not Daudt is charged in Montana, this presents serious concerns about how law abiding and responsible he is -- or more precisely, is not.

That Daudt further attempted to keep this incident from the public indicates he presumably knew that this does not reflect well on his judgment, either as a law maker, or as a CC permit holder who goes about armed. It does not appear that Daudt made even a minimal attempt to comply with either federal law or the state laws of Montana and North Dakota before traveling across those states. That would seem to indicate a fundamental disregard and disrespect for law generally, and for the laws of other states specifically, which is NOT a desirable quality in the Minority Leader of the MN House of Representatives. It reflects badly on Minnesota.

It is worth noting that the MN BCA website, re reciprocity of CC permits, notes that MN does not have reciprocity with either NoDak or Montana, and that it advises (but does not require) checking with other states before travel - my emphasis added:

Permit to Carry Reciprocity

Minnesota permit holders who plan to visit another state, and who also wish to carry a concealed firearm while visiting that state, are urged to contact that state before traveling. This will allow Minnesota permit holders to determine all restrictions or prohibitions regarding the carrying of concealed firearms in those states, as well as their laws regarding firearms and weapons in general. Most of these states have web pages dedicated to this subject. State firearm laws and reciprocal agreements may change frequently, and are also subject to court interpretation.
Beyond the conduct of Kurt Daudt, it is likely that we will see a renewed effort to pass some form of Stand Your Ground law in Minnesota from the MN GOP members of the legislature.

Prohibitions for CC permits:
518B.01, subdivision 14; domestic abuse

609.224, subdivision 3
Daudt's associate, Weinzetl appears to qualify for a CC permit, in spite of a gross misdemeanor assault in the 5th degree IF it occurs within 3 years of a previous incident of violence, as his prior problems in this regard occurred in 2010 - unless he is convicted of a felony or plea-bargains down to a gross misdemeanor in Montana for this most recent brush with the law.
(b) Except as otherwise provided in section 609.2242, subdivision 3, paragraph (c), a person is not entitled to possess a pistol if the person has been convicted after August 1, 1992, of assault in the fifth degree if the offense was committed within three years of a previous conviction under sections 609.221 to 609.224, unless three years have elapsed from the date of conviction and, during that time, the person has not been convicted of any other violation of section 609.224.
(iv) 609.749; stalking
(v) 624.713; ineligible because of being a minor, drugs, mental illness, etc.
(vi) 624.719; not an illegal immigrant
(vii) 629.715, subdivision 2; under arrest for a crime of violence during very narrowly limited criteria (out of state arrests do not appear to apply among those criteria)
629.72, subdivision 2; summary of above domestic abuse, protection orders, etc.
and certain violations of federal gun laws

I find it VERY concerning that someone who has demonstrated repeated disregard for the law and the tendency towards violent actions and a lack of responsible judgment, including assaulting a law enforcement officer, still qualifies for a Minnesota CC permit, apparently even after a felony arrest in another state.

Add to that the evidence that in Stand Your Ground states, there is a lowering of the standard for shooting another person from objective evidence of self defense to subjective fear, and include in that the number of instances where under SYG unarmed people are threatened and shot, and it is clear that SYG is a problem, not a solution. There is no evidence that our CC permit laws, expanded in the previous decade, have made us any safer, or that CC permit holders are as safe, responsible and law abiding as they claim. We have seen instances of CC permit holders engaging in road rage shootings, and cases of children dying from firearms in the homes of CC permit holders. Guns, as we have seen in the incident involving Kurt Daudt's handgun, are too easily used to escalate violence, instead of people resorting to other alternatives, including leaving the conflict, or calling law enforcement, and those firearms belonging to CC permit holders are not reliably secured from others. Kurt Daudt is an excellent example of why we should not pass an SYG law in Minnesota. States with more guns and more lax gun laws have more gun deaths, gun injuries, and gun accidents than those that have more and more stringent gun laws.

Monday, February 3, 2014

The Truth About Arizona's Concealed Carry Permit Holders

“These numbers reflect all transactions and the current status of permits, since the inception of the CCW program in Arizona on September 8, 1994,” azdps.gov‘s website informs above concealed carry stats revealed today. “Please note, these numbers do not reflect changes, such as a permit that was suspended and later reinstated.” Regardless, we’re looking at 212k permits in a state with some six million legal residents. Not a bad tally, both in absolute numbers and as a percentage of the total population. Then again, we are talking about a state bordering on Mexico, where drug cartel violence spills over like salsa out of a broken, overstuffed taco shell. And a state with Constitutional Carry. Make the jump for the demographic breakdown for the Copper State’s concealed carriers . . . [h/t AL]
Current Arizona Statistics
Statistics Last Updated: 2/2/2014 7:06:56 AM
Active      Suspended    Revoked
212086      3079           1155
It looks like about 3.5% of the overall population in Arizona has a concealed carry permit. When you consider that the population figure includes children and young people who are not eligible, you've got your 6% that we've seen in the past.

In addition to that, Constitutional Carry means that only those who want to take advantage of interstate reciprocity bother with the permit.  So we're talking about a much higher percentage of the adult population carrying guns. The actual figure of people carrying guns in a given crowd would be, what, 10%, maybe 15%?  (I'll have to go back and adjust my estimates concerning the Loughner shooting which were based on only 6%.)

The suspended and revoked numbers add up to a full 2% of the total permit holders. This is a good bit higher than the bogus numbers we keep hearing about in places like Florida, Texas and Minnesota. And considering that Arizona is one of the most gun-friendly and gun-tolerant states in the country, the percentage of concealed carry fuck-ups is quite high, as you would expect.

Friday, January 31, 2014

Wisconsin (not Ohio) Concealed Carry Permit Holder Arrested

Thomas Krautkramer

Local news reports

A Wausau man with a concealed-carry permit is accused of pulling a loaded gun on the owner of a town of Cleveland business and threatening to shoot him, according to court documents. 

Thomas Krautkramer, 30, was arrested Thursday afternoon when a man working at a Cleveland business told police Krautkramer and another man came to the business demanding money; when the worker refused, Krautkramer threatened to shoot him, according to court documents. 

Krautkramer will appear in Marathon County Circuit Court Wednesday, where he faces one felony count of making threats to injure. Misdemeanor charges of intentionally pointing a firearm at a person and disorderly conduct also were filed Friday against Krautkramer in connection with the incident, which was reported Thursday. 

Marathon County Circuit Judge LaMont Jacobsen on Friday ordered Krautkramer not to possess any weapons as a condition of bond. That order will trigger a suspension of his concealed-carry permit, Wisconsin Department of Justice Deputy Administrator David Zibolski said, because the DOJ checks court records daily for convictions or bail conditions that can result in license suspension or revocation. 

If Krautkramer is convicted, his permit will be revoked.

Wednesday, January 29, 2014

Iowa Concealed Carry Permit Holder to Face Charges for Negligent Discharge on School Property

A Glenwood man who accidentally shot himself on a school playground late last week now faces charges.
The Mills County Attorney's Office says Douglas Trent Good has been charged with carrying weapons on school grounds, a class D felony punishable by up to five years in prison or a fine of $750 to $7,500. Authorities say Good accidentally shot himself in the leg at Glenwood West Elementary School's playground pickup area late Friday afternoon. Good was reportedly sitting in his vehicle when the gun accidentally discharged.
A former police officer in Glenwood, Creston, and Bellevue, Good currently works as a firearms trainer, and runs his own private investigating business, specializing in divorce and child custody cases. Good ran an unsuccessful campaign for Glenwood mayor last fall, losing to incumbent Kim Clark in November.


Florida Concealed Carry Permit Holder Demonstrates His Idiocy

Tuesday, January 21, 2014

Why guns shouldn't be allowed in a coffee shop.

Just think of this happening in a Starbucks filled with armed gunloons.  Especially if they are the type of bozo who owns an assault weapon "for the Zombie Apocalypse".

Tuesday, January 14, 2014

Florida Retired Cop, Lawful Gun Owner, Shoots and Kills a Fellow Moviegoer Over a Trifle

Retired Cop Kills Father Of 3 Yr. Old For Texting In A Theatre
A retired cop, Curtis Reeves, 71 of Tampa shot and killed one man and wounded his wife with one shot for texting inside a Wesley Chapel, FL theatre. – Facebook picture of shooting victim Chad Oulson and daughter

Addicting Info

A retired cop, Curtis Reeves, 71 of Tampa shot and killed one man and wounded his wife with one shot for texting inside a Wesley Chapel, FL theatre.
While attending a screening of Lone Survivor, Chad and Nicole Oulson sat in front of Reeves who was accompanied by his wife. Prior to the start of the film an argument began because the Oulsons were texting their 3 yr. old daughter and making noise. A witness stated that Reeves left to get a manager but returned alone. And that’s when the altercation escalated inside the theatre.

What witnesses saw inside the theatre.

Charles Cummings, a 68 yr. old Vietnam War veteran in attendance for his birthday, was two seats away from Reeves with his son Alex. They saw and heard the whole thing. Prior to the movie starting but during theatre previews the argument began. When Reeves returned without a manager the argument began again it grew louder. Popcorn was thrown and Reeves drew a .380 pistol and fired. Nicole Oulson put her hand up in an attempt to protect her husband but the round went through her hand and into Chad’s chest.
All the news reports are talking about "texting" being the cause of the trouble, but I don't get it. Isn't texting a silent and unobtrusive activity? 

Thursday, January 9, 2014

John Cassata, the Mendon Restaurant Shooter to be Held Accountable

cassata.jpg


Local news reports further to our earlier post at which time there were no charges.

The man who accidentally shot himself and his friend in a crowded Mendon restaurant over the weekend was charged Tuesday with felony reckless endangerment and misdemeanor assault, according to a Monroe County Sheriff's Office spokesman.
John Cassata, 70, of Fairport, was showing his .38-caliber handgun to a friend, Charles Raab, 67, while sitting in the Cottage Hotel during the lunch hour on Saturday when the gun discharged, sending a bullet through Cassata's hand, ricocheting off his leg and grazing Raab's ankle, according to the Sheriff's Office.
Witnesses said the shooting left Cassata bleeding heavily and repeating, "I have a permit. I have a permit," referring to his pistol.
A woman who answered the phone at Cassata's home and who identified herself as his wife said her husband did not want to comment on the incident.
Sheriff's spokesman Cpl. John Helfer said Cassata did have a permit for the weapon but that it has been put on hold and the weapon has been confiscated