arma virumque cano (et alia)
...so let's make them all felonies.
No, let's eliminate them.
by making it a felony.
Yes, and because most gun owners are law-abiding folks, they will comply. The result being the unfit and dangerous people who can't pass the background check will not so easily be able to buy guns. And the inconvenience to the law abiding is minimal. Why do you oppose it knowing that many criminals get their guns exactly this way?
Prison is not a mere inconvenience. There is a way to do this without the felonies.
Because you refuse to allow a background check system that doesn't create a papertrail and that can be done by private individuals, rather than FFLs. If you'd compromise on that, you could have universal background checks.
TS, this is an example of your being inconsistent. If someone breaks the law and goes to prison it's not the law's fault. But suddenly because it's convenient to your position, that's how you put it about a law you don't like. In all other situations you agree with personal responsibility.
Greg, that's nonsense and you know it. No one other than a few of you gun nuts is saying it all depends on opening up the NICS to the public. If that were on the table, you'd oppose it.
How do you get from supporting personal responsibility to it meaning I should every unnecessary felony on the books? What's inconsistent about saying crimes should be limited to actions that cause direct harm to another?We know your side opposes a background check bill that doesn't involve jail time. Colburn put it on the table, and your side ignored it.
Mikeb, your side demands compromise without being willing to practice it.
Good, though I hope most of those people didn't get saddled with Berettas.
The more I look at those, the more like Airsoft guns the appear.
I do have to wonder how this statement is supposed to be a fact. If these transfers occurred without a background check and presumably without any other record of the sale, how were they counted?Could it be that this number is an estimate, just like the estimates of defensive gun uses?
No, it couldn't be that. When you ask gun-wielding lunatics if they used their gun defensively, you elicit all kinds of bragging bullshit. Not so when you ask people if they bought their gun privately.
You're guessing again on both counts. What is the source of that number?
And last year millions of adults engaged in sexual activity. Since we know that some of them were rapists, we must make background checks mandatory before every sexual encounter.Of course we could just dispense with background checks if we put rapists in prison and kept them there.Similarly, we could dispense with background checks for firearms purchases if we put violent criminals in prison and kept them there.-- TruthBeTold
A simpleton's solution. Unfortunately the world is a bit more complicated that that.
That's all these gun loons have, simpleton rationality like this? HA HA