Wednesday, July 29, 2009

U.S. Guns in Canada and Mexico

EurekAlert.org published an article on one of our favorite subjects: gun flow into Canada and Mexico. And, I must say, finally it seems articles are coming out which fairly address the question of where all the guns are coming from. Authors Philip J. Cook, of Duke University Durham, NC, US, Wendy Cukier Ryerson of the University of Toronto, Canada and Keith Krause from the Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies Geneva, Switzerland, collaborated.

Investigators have traced 90 to 95 percent of weapons in Mexico to the US, but how did they get there? The guns sampled may not represent the bigger picture: the figure reflects firearms submitted for tracing by Mexican authorities. Authorities recover only a fraction of firearms from crimes and gun battles, and traces are only requested on some recovered weapons.

Central America, a region awash with weapons imported by both governments and rebel groups during the civil wars in El Salvador, Nicaragua and Guatemala, is a further potential weapon source to Mexico, as are Chinese, Russian, Eastern European, or other sources. To date evidence is mainly anecdotal. Still less is known about the third source of weapons, the Mexican security forces themselves. The Small Arms Survey 2008 showed that weapons diverted from police and armed forces are a major and sometimes the main source of illicit weapons in many countries.

Some weapons used in Mexican crimes such as grenades, RPGs and fully automatic weapons are less easy to acquire in the US, and have probably arrived from elsewhere. This contrasts with Canada, where very few cases detail handguns from anywhere but the US, other than arms illegally diverted from legal Canadian supplies.


There you have it. Finally, here's an article which allows for the other sources of Mexican guns, Central American countries and the Mexican military itself, and properly qualifies that 90% business. Nevertheless, the point is exactly the same: too many guns bought in the United States are ending up in Mexico. As a solution we have this.

The authors speculate US authorities would not only have to stem the supply of smuggled weapons from the US, but also other potential sources to successfully block the flow of deadly arms to criminals and criminal organizations.

About Canada, there's no question, apparently.

What's your opinion? Does this description of the problem seem fair? To me, it seems like the authors were reading the comments on this blog an took some of that information into their report. What do you think?

What about Canada? Are the numbers so small we shouldn't worry about them?

Please leave a comment.

5 comments:

  1. "Investigators have traced 90 to 95 percent of weapons in Mexico to the US"

    1st sentence of the article you quoted is a bold faced LIE Mike.

    Repeating the same lie over and over again doesn't make it true y'know.

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  2. "What about Canada? Are the numbers so small we shouldn't worry about them?"

    I really don't care what the numbers are--Not our problem. If they want to pass silly laws that prohibit their subjects from owning guns, then also let them guard their own border.

    Why should we spend one tax dollar worrying about what happens to a legal product here that has left our country?

    It's their problem. They created the black market there, not me.

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  3. http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/testimony-on-assault-weapons-guts-obamas-90-percent-lie/

    MikeB: Yesterday's lies served up today!

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  4. Perhaps instead of worrying about what percentage of guns come from the U.S., as certainly some guns always will, we should first consider whether stemming the flow of guns from the US will actually reduce the total number of guns the gangs get. I think it's just common sense that they have plenty of money and multiple sources, so they'll just get more from other means if no guns from the US are obtainable and the laws we pass will only affect US citizens.

    The bigger question, though, is should we would change our laws because of the problems of a neighboring nation.

    Abortion is illegal in Mexico, and some Mexican women cross the border to get abortions. Should we change our laws to affect that? That abortion is a right in the US allow Mexican women to circumvent Mexico's abortion laws, just as our gun laws allow Mexican gangsters to circumvent Mexican gun laws.

    Likewise would we reduce freedom of speech, of religion, of search and seizure, etc., if those policies caused problems in Mexico in some manner?

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  5. "US authorities would not only have to stem the supply of smuggled weapons from the US, but also other potential sources to successfully block the flow of deadly arms to criminals and criminal organizations."

    Since the article also states that "police and armed forces are a major and sometimes the main source of illicit weapons in many countries.", the only way for the US to stem that flow is to invade those countries and take over.

    Is that what you're advocating?

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