Police said last night that Byron Williams, the heavily armed man who got into a shootout with police after being pulled over in Oakland Sunday, was en route to kill officials in the San Francisco offices of the Tides Foundation and the ACLU.
The ACLU has been a whipping boy of the right for years. But the Tides Foundation? If you haven't heard of Tides, a standard-issue lefty foundation that's been around since the 1970s, it probably means you don't watch the Glenn Beck program. It turns out that Beck rails against Tides constantly on his program — roughly weekly, according to our search of his show transcripts. That includes two shows less than a week before the July 18 shooting. Tides frequently appears on Beck's famous blackboard renderings of who is pulling the strings of the Obama administration and the liberal media.
I blame Glenn Beck. Through his cleverly orchestrated public persona, which I believe has personal enrichment as its only scope, old Glenn is doing lots of damage in the country. The vast majority of his adherents do not act out violently, but are they better off? Are they mentally healthier and more productive? Are they better citizens? I don't think so.
What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
"Are they mentally healthier and more productive? Are they better citizens? I don't think so."
ReplyDeleteSo what makes a better citizen? Someone that just drinks the kool-lade?
So what do you propose as a solution to your horrendous problem? Ban Glenn Beck? I mean that is the typical liberal response. If they don't like something or understand something they want to ban it.
For someone that shares the same root as "liberty", "liberals" sure are quick to ban anything they don't like. The massive campaigns against free speech on University campuses is a good example. So is that hag McCarthy's absolute need to ban shoulder things that go up.
Its for the children.
"Ban Glenn Beck? I mean that is the typical liberal response."
ReplyDeleteActually, you can't find any liberals who suggest banning Beck is the answer. Instead, it is the typical response of rightwing fearmongers.
Y'know, I've yet to hear any liberal call for Limbaugh or Savage or O'Reilly or Beck or any other rightwing hero to be banned.
OTOH, we would expect the fairness doctrine to be reinstated, which require licensed media outlets--such as Fox and those station using the public airwaves-- to at least present opposing views.
Of course, FWM is being ludicrous when he claims liberals want to ban free speech. Who is demanding an Islamic center not be built near the WTC ruins? Which group routinely demands certain books be removed from libraries? Which group lobbies to remove federal funding from public safety research programs because they don't like the results? Which group wants to criminalize flag burning? Hint: it ain't the libs.
"OTOH, we would expect the fairness doctrine to be reinstated, which require licensed media outlets--such as Fox and those station using the public airwaves-- to at least present opposing views."
ReplyDeleteThe opposing view is already on the air, at CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR and other places. Why would forcing Fox to air the same nonsense change anything? The reason Fox came into existence is because people got tired of hearing only the "party message" and knowing it was garbage. You're just mad because Fox is succeeding. If they failed miserably because people didn't want to hear that view, you'd no doubt be trumpeting it from the rooftops, right?
Anon: Again, you're projecting.
ReplyDeleteFox is successful because they appeal to the lowest common denominator. For example, does anyone really believe mcDonalds sells the best hamburger on earth?
You can complain about CNN, MSNBC and the various other networks--but they all have conservative voices. More importantly, they don't attempt to pretend their opinion shows are news programming.
Let's all remember that a poll of Fox viewers in 2003 found that 67% of them believed Iraq was responsible for 9/11.
BTW, Anon, a Pew Research Survey--in 2007--found the audience of Fox News rated lowest in terms of knowledge of current events. Behind CNN, behind MSNBC, behind all the networks.
ReplyDeleteBehind the Daily Show.
Jadegold: “Let's all remember that a poll of Fox viewers in 2003 found that 67% of them believed Iraq was responsible for 9/11.”
ReplyDeleteSo did congress.
MikeB, would you blame Jade if someone bombed the NRA office?
Jade Fool, you're too funny. The opinion shows don't pretend they're news?? Really, you've watched 20/20 and Dateline, and you can make that comment in seriousness? What kind of drugs are you on and where can I get some of those?
ReplyDeleteNobody pretends to claim that McDonald's has the best hamburger on Earth. But, they are popular for a reason, even if you don't care for them. (I don't)
Lastly, Fox also has liberal commentators and allows dissenting viewpoints. You'd know this if you watched it.
"So did congress."
ReplyDeleteMy God, TS IS a Fox News viewer.
No, TS, Congress was misled by Bush into the belief Saddam had all these WMDs that he did not possess.
"So what do you propose as a solution to your horrendous problem? Ban Glenn Beck?"
ReplyDeleteThey won't ban Beck as that flies in the face of all the empty lefty posturing of supporting freedom.
What they'll do is ban hate speech, then have Beck deemed a "hate speaker".
Basically the same approach they take towards guns. They don't want to ban guns. They want to ban strange and unusual guns. And naturally, most guns are strange and unusual to them.
"You can complain about CNN, MSNBC and the various other networks--but they all have conservative voices."
ReplyDeleteAnd Fox has liberal voices Geraldo, Juan Williams, Marc Lamont Hill, and sometimes even Bill O'Reilly on some subjects.
Jade: “No, TS, Congress was misled by Bush into the belief Saddam had all these WMDs that he did not possess.”
ReplyDeleteNo Shiite, Jade. That was my point.
I beg to differ Oklahoman. Juan Williams is a two-faced lying son-of-a-bitch. Tuesday he was on NPR somewhat fair-mindedly discussing the problems that Obama and the democrats face in the mid-term elections, legislative accomplishments and their relative popularity, then Wednesday morning the little bastard was on FOX news, condemning Obama for throwing Sherrod under the bus. The very network that made Brietbart famous. Butthole!
ReplyDeleteIf Williams is a liberal, I'm fucking Lenin. I can't abide that man.
BTW, mom was born in Broken Arrow OK. Dad was born in Houston. It's not their fault I'm a DFH from California.
Shit, I didn't even notice you said Geraldo.
ReplyDelete"Who is demanding an Islamic center not be built near the WTC ruins? Which group routinely demands certain books be removed from libraries? Which group lobbies to remove federal funding from public safety research programs because they don't like the results? Which group wants to criminalize flag burning? Hint: it ain't the libs."
ReplyDeleteThis is why I value having Jadegold around.
FWM, You often try to put words in my mouth like I want to ban Glenn Beck. I don't. I just want attention brought to the fact that he's an unscurpulous rabble-rouser. I don't think he rouses you - I would never call you a name like that.