Did the SEMI-AUTOMATIC, NOT AN AUTOMATIC PISTOL YOU ANTI-GUNZ STUPIDZ!! have oneathem waykuuuuuuuuuuuuul extra capacity magazine thingies? Cuz that would be so neato!
Maybe they can have it engraved or painted with a donkey's head with an ear missing or donkey's head in oneathem red circles with a slash indicating "not allowed".
"Bad messaging"? I'm guessing that the thing that the Aryanzona POG is most upset about is that Loughner didn't spend more time at the range so's he could make them tough shots at pointblank range.
Like Joyce Kaufman sez, " “If ballots don’t work, bullets will.” Lock&Load; ready on the right, ready on the far right, FIRE!
Red Az, while a woman died, accidentally, in a car driven by Ted Kennedy, and while he nearly died in the same accident, it is a misstatement to say he used the car to kill her. That suggests her death was intentional or at the very least that he didn't care if she died, which does not appear to be true at all.
A far better analogy would be the glock being offered this way is on a par with the outrage over a tasteless ad that ran at the time of Chapaquiddick for a VW beatle, that promoted VWs float rather than sink.
You apparently are eager RedAss to put yourself in the most ugly, crass, vulgar and vicious light possible with that comment.
You succeed.
But you do no credit to the gun loons Red Ass. You simply demonstrate the kind of failures in judgement that are a problem for your side.
Apparently Ted Kennedy did try to save the woman in his car. Given that this was not the age of cell phones, he should have behaved differently, in terms of calling for help, but he did go get additional help, two men who also tried diving to rescue Mary Jo Kopechne.
I don't approve of Kennedy's actions; I suspect he was not fully sober, given his drinking at the time.
The fact is that no one did try to exploit auctioning off a car for political fund raising in a way that was in such bad taste as this.
It does not need to be a politically divisive thing to condemn this raffle; even local Republicans have objected to it.
"James Kelley, a member of the county GOP executive committee, called it "insensitive and stupid."
But not apparently Jim or Red Ass?
Rather you would try to claim that a previous incident of bad conduct, one that resulted in one person dying, somehow equates to and justifies what is tactless and insensitive where 19 people were shot?
They couldn't come up with something else to raffle off that would be a better choice?
You appear from this to lack character and huma decency. Or, you just reason THAT poorly.
Dog gone, all your spinning and deflecting avoids the real issue.
If the democrats auctioned off an Oldsmobile, there wouldn't be nearly as much of an uproar, despite the fact that drunken idiot, Ted Kennedy used one to kill a woman.
Democrats are world renowned for their selective outrage. Especially when all their favorite boogey men are involved (Republicans and guns). This is just another case of such.
AzRed wrote:"Dog gone, all your spinning and deflecting avoids the real issue.
If the democrats auctioned off an Oldsmobile, there wouldn't be nearly as much of an uproar, despite the fact that drunken idiot, Ted Kennedy used one to kill a woman.
Democrats are world renowned for their selective outrage. Especially when all their favorite boogey men are involved (Republicans and guns). This is just another case of such."
Bull crap, RedAss. That is an unfounded statement. I would point out to you that the democrats had the good sense NOT to ever auction off such a vehicle, least of all in a location close to where that tragedy happened, within a few months of it occurring.
This is something that BOTH Republicans and Democrats, and Independents, and non-aligned for that matter have all found offensive.
Except you, because you probably can't think of any situation where any action with the right wing and a gun would be inappropriate - which addresses your lack of sense and perspective, rather than any virtue on the right.
"Bull crap, RedAss. That is an unfounded statement. I would point out to you that the democrats had the good sense NOT to ever auction off such a vehicle, least of all in a location close to where that tragedy happened, within a few months of it occurring."
Just because they haven't done it, it doesn't indicate they have the good sense to not do it. After all, before Loughner shot Gabby Giffords, one could assume he had the good sense not to commit such a heinous act.
So I stand by my theory. If the democrats had committed an act equal to the auctioning of this gun, Keef'O and the rest of his dittoheads wouldn't be bothered in the slightest.
Yeah, somehow, 42 years later, the sting of such a deal would not only be far less fresh, I doubt that anyone would make the connection.
As tragic as the Kennedy accident was, we're talking about one woman being killed unintentionally versus 19 people shot intentionally, with six of those being fatal.
What this group of people are doing is disrespectful to a lot of people who experienced a terrible loss and disruption to their lives.
I doubt that a single one of them would find it a positive contribution to add more guns to their environment, regardless of who it is that wins that raffle.
Well, in all fairness, when it comes to tastelessness, the Ted Kennedy Pinata of POGoutrage is hard to top. I lived in MA/NH for over 30 years and the area republicans demonized Ted until the day he died.
Let's never forget that George Bush's sweet, sweet wife ALSO killed somebody with a car and simply went on with her life as if nothing had happened--a fact that the same press who savaged Ted Kennedy for about 40 FUCKING YEARS, whenever he was campaigning for just about anything, deemed too unimportant to examine at any length when it became common knowledge.
So, no, the Glock auction, while demonstrating the braindead sociopathic mentality of the Pima County AinC* is probably less repugnant at the moment, give it time.
BTW, if the MA GOP thought THEY could benefit by auctioning off said Oldsmobile I'm sure they could have gotten a deal on one from Ernie Boch.
Did the SEMI-AUTOMATIC, NOT AN AUTOMATIC PISTOL YOU ANTI-GUNZ STUPIDZ!! have oneathem waykuuuuuuuuuuuuul extra capacity magazine thingies? Cuz that would be so neato!
ReplyDeleteMaybe they can have it engraved or painted with a donkey's head with an ear missing or donkey's head in oneathem red circles with a slash indicating "not allowed".
"Bad messaging"? I'm guessing that the thing that the Aryanzona POG is most upset about is that Loughner didn't spend more time at the range so's he could make them tough shots at pointblank range.
Like Joyce Kaufman sez, " “If ballots don’t work, bullets will.” Lock&Load; ready on the right, ready on the far right, FIRE!
If the democrats auctioned off an Oldsmobile, would there as much of an uproar?
ReplyDeleteAfter all, Ted Kennedy used one to kill a woman.
Red Az, while a woman died, accidentally, in a car driven by Ted Kennedy, and while he nearly died in the same accident, it is a misstatement to say he used the car to kill her. That suggests her death was intentional or at the very least that he didn't care if she died, which does not appear to be true at all.
ReplyDeleteA far better analogy would be the glock being offered this way is on a par with the outrage over a tasteless ad that ran at the time of Chapaquiddick for a VW beatle, that promoted VWs float rather than sink.
You apparently are eager RedAss to put yourself in the most ugly, crass, vulgar and vicious light possible with that comment.
You succeed.
But you do no credit to the gun loons Red Ass. You simply demonstrate the kind of failures in judgement that are a problem for your side.
"That suggests her death was intentional or at the very least that he didn't care if she died, which does not appear to be true at all."
ReplyDeleteI would say going home instead of calling for help would be a sign that he didn't care if se died.
Apparently Ted Kennedy did try to save the woman in his car. Given that this was not the age of cell phones, he should have behaved differently, in terms of calling for help, but he did go get additional help, two men who also tried diving to rescue Mary Jo Kopechne.
ReplyDeleteI don't approve of Kennedy's actions; I suspect he was not fully sober, given his drinking at the time.
The fact is that no one did try to exploit auctioning off a car for political fund raising in a way that was in such bad taste as this.
It does not need to be a politically divisive thing to condemn this raffle; even local Republicans have objected to it.
"James Kelley, a member of the county GOP executive committee, called it "insensitive and stupid."
But not apparently Jim or Red Ass?
Rather you would try to claim that a previous incident of bad conduct, one that resulted in one person dying, somehow equates to and justifies what is tactless and insensitive where 19 people were shot?
They couldn't come up with something else to raffle off that would be a better choice?
You appear from this to lack character and huma decency. Or, you just reason THAT poorly.
Dog gone, all your spinning and deflecting avoids the real issue.
ReplyDeleteIf the democrats auctioned off an Oldsmobile, there wouldn't be nearly as much of an uproar, despite the fact that drunken idiot, Ted Kennedy used one to kill a woman.
Democrats are world renowned for their selective outrage. Especially when all their favorite boogey men are involved (Republicans and guns). This is just another case of such.
AzRed wrote:"Dog gone, all your spinning and deflecting avoids the real issue.
ReplyDeleteIf the democrats auctioned off an Oldsmobile, there wouldn't be nearly as much of an uproar, despite the fact that drunken idiot, Ted Kennedy used one to kill a woman.
Democrats are world renowned for their selective outrage. Especially when all their favorite boogey men are involved (Republicans and guns). This is just another case of such."
Bull crap, RedAss. That is an unfounded statement. I would point out to you that the democrats had the good sense NOT to ever auction off such a vehicle, least of all in a location close to where that tragedy happened, within a few months of it occurring.
This is something that BOTH Republicans and Democrats, and Independents, and non-aligned for that matter have all found offensive.
Except you, because you probably can't think of any situation where any action with the right wing and a gun would be inappropriate - which addresses your lack of sense and perspective, rather than any virtue on the right.
"Bull crap, RedAss. That is an unfounded statement. I would point out to you that the democrats had the good sense NOT to ever auction off such a vehicle, least of all in a location close to where that tragedy happened, within a few months of it occurring."
ReplyDeleteJust because they haven't done it, it doesn't indicate they have the good sense to not do it. After all, before Loughner shot Gabby Giffords, one could assume he had the good sense not to commit such a heinous act.
So I stand by my theory. If the democrats had committed an act equal to the auctioning of this gun, Keef'O and the rest of his dittoheads wouldn't be bothered in the slightest.
AztecRed, I've never been a big Ted Kennedy defender, but I have to agree with Dog Gone when she says that's a stupid comparison.
ReplyDeleteA fairer one would be if they offered a raffle of the same model Olds on the same bridge where the accident happened just a few months later.
You don't think that would have received some bad press?
However, let's not forget the basic failure of all gun / car comparisons. One was made to kill people the other to drive them from place to place.
Yeah, somehow, 42 years later, the sting of such a deal would not only be far less fresh, I doubt that anyone would make the connection.
ReplyDeleteAs tragic as the Kennedy accident was, we're talking about one woman being killed unintentionally versus 19 people shot intentionally, with six of those being fatal.
What this group of people are doing is disrespectful to a lot of people who experienced a terrible loss and disruption to their lives.
I doubt that a single one of them would find it a positive contribution to add more guns to their environment, regardless of who it is that wins that raffle.
Well, in all fairness, when it comes to tastelessness, the Ted Kennedy Pinata of POGoutrage is hard to top. I lived in MA/NH for over 30 years and the area republicans demonized Ted until the day he died.
ReplyDeleteLet's never forget that George Bush's sweet, sweet wife ALSO killed somebody with a car and simply went on with her life as if nothing had happened--a fact that the same press who savaged Ted Kennedy for about 40 FUCKING YEARS, whenever he was campaigning for just about anything, deemed too unimportant to examine at any length when it became common knowledge.
So, no, the Glock auction, while demonstrating the braindead sociopathic mentality of the Pima County AinC* is probably less repugnant at the moment, give it time.
BTW, if the MA GOP thought THEY could benefit by auctioning off said Oldsmobile I'm sure they could have gotten a deal on one from Ernie Boch.
* Asshole-in-Chief.