Saturday, July 28, 2012

They Make It Too Easy

We're constantly being told that gunloons are just like the rest of us; that they have rich and fulfilling personal lives and are highly successful in their professional pursuits.

But how is it when these gunloons act out badly, they always look like someone you want to keep children away from and have surely never had a date with anyone of the same species?

Meet NRA member, Neil Prescott of Crofton, MD.


Police have foiled what they believed could have been another Aurora-scale massacre after a man who called himself 'a joker' and had an arsenal of semi-automatic rifles threatened to shoot up the business from which he was being fired. 

Neil Prescott, of Crofton, Maryland, was wearing a T-shirt that read 'Guns don't kill people. I do,' when first confronted by officers on Thursday, police revealed today.The man, identified in a search warrant, told a supervisor at software and mailroom supplier Pitney Bowes that, 'I'm a joker and I'm gonna load my guns and blow everybody up,' and that he wanted to see the supervisor's 'brain splatter on the floor.'The threats were made multiple times in separate phone calls this week, and investigators who searched the 28-year-old's apartment this morning found several thousand rounds of ammunition and about two dozen semi-automatic rifles and pistols.
Here's what Neil spent the money saved from not dating on:

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  1. Jadegold, I have a message for you from DG, it reads as follows: "I'm telling you that anything you quote from the Daily Mail is unreliable and will get you laughed off the page."

    LOL!!!!

    DG also said: "Anonymous, the Daily Mail is full of crap. That was the same source that recently tried to claim that it was illegal to buy more than two limes at a time - totally false.

    They are not a credible source, they write crap on a par with sighting Elvis working in a Detroit Burger King.

    So, do your homework. Don't cite the Daily Mail here, EVER. And try something intelligent, like not only looking at credible sources, but multisourcing credible sources."

    Mikeb, you might wanna get rid of the "Search" capability, it is gonna come back and bite several of your highly disrespectful bloggers in the ass.

    Like these search results for "Daily Mail which Jadegold cited for this blog post.
    Should we expect Pooch to now call JG a fuckwit?

    Mikeb302000: It came from the Daily Mail
    Jun 10, 2012
    Although, the people who cite the Daily Mail would prefer most people would just stop thinking! Posted by Laci The Dog at ... I know all too well what you think of the Daily Mail - and rightly so, Laci. This is the same tabloid rag ...
    http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/
    Mikeb302000: Gunloon Law Prof Punk'd By Daily Mail
    Apr 04, 2011
    When asked to back up their nonsense, gunloons will point to articles from the UK's Daily Mail. Here the Daily Mail claims the UK is far more violent than South Africa and the US. Another Daily Mail article asserts the UK is ...
    http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/
    Mikeb302000: The Stink of Right Wing Corruption in the Fast and ...
    Jun 30, 2012
    Fortune magazine, which produces the Fortune 500 lists every year, is no rag, no tabloid, no Daily Mail. It has been a prestigious magazine, a rival to Forbes, dating back to its founding in 1930 by Henry Luce. It has been for ...
    http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/
    Mikeb302000: Accidental Shooting of Younger Brother by Marine ...
    May 30, 2012
    The Daily Mail reports. Police have arrested a 27-year-old man on suspicion of manslaughter after he accidentally shot his 17-year-old brother who idolised him. Juab County Sheriff Alden Orme says Cameron Bryce Charlton ...
    http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/
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  2. Prescott is an Obama voter. Big surprise there.

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    1. And you know this 'fact' how? NRA members, the voluntry rather than the compulsory ones, usually support the right wing conservative extremist agendas.

      Orlin, do you know for fact that Jadegold did not multi-source this? Can you point to any fact that is inaccurate or incorrecct?

      The Daily Mail is deplorable. But give us facts. Obama voter is not a fact.

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    2. DG asks:Orlin, do you know for fact that Jadegold did not multi-source this? Can you point to any fact that is inaccurate or incorrecct?

      Are you shitting me? You and that guy who plays a lawyer on this blog know everything, you've told us all at least a million times. We are all fuckwits. We know mere gunloonz know nada, zip, zilch. We rely on you for facts. Let me remind you of the facts you told us.
      "I'm telling you that anything you quote from the Daily Mail is unreliable and will get you laughed off the page."
      "Anonymous, the Daily Mail is full of crap. That was the same source that recently tried to claim that it was illegal to buy more than two limes at a time - totally false.

      They are not a credible source, they write crap on a par with sighting Elvis working in a Detroit Burger King.

      So, my question is: Are you full of shit now, or were you full of shit then?

      Thanks again Mikeb for that "Search" capability.

      btw, DG, I thought you said good-bye to this blog. I'm beginning to believe we can't believe one damn word you say.
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    3. aw, Orlin, I've left off writing as an author.

      I can still drop by to poke holes in your comments with a sharp stick, because you are full of crap, and incapable of thinking clearly.

      Someone has to straighten out you foolish and erroneous notions about history, politics, literature, science......you are an ill educated fuckwit Orlon, apparently one with a gun.

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    4. DG, exactly which parWere you full of shit about the Daily Mail before, or now?
      Seems simple enough question for someone with your supposed intellect. Even tho, I personally believe you to be a sciolist.
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  3. Orlin, you know that the authors of this blog don't hold each other to the high standards that they expect from us.

    But we do. Jadegold, perhaps you'd like to discuss the details of your personal life with all of us? How about your professional life? If not, it's hard to evaluate the quality of your accusations about our lives.

    In addition, I looked at the article that you cited and at others about this man. There was nothing that identified him as a member of the NRA. On what are you basing that claim? If nothing, you may wish to ask Laci about claiming things that you can't prove.

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    1. Sure, Greggy.

      Why don't you start?

      Seriously, there's nothing wrong with the quality of my accusations. Face facts--take a look at Prescott. He hasn't seen his feet in years, he's 28 and has a face that looks like it was set on fire and put out with a track shoe, he can't hold a job----but he has a ton o' guns.

      It's as I've always sagely noted---gunloons are unsuccessful goofs who have failed in every aspect of their lives. They think a gun, or lotsa guns, buy them respect.

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    2. I shouldn't expect reasoning from someone who uses baby talk, but for the rest of us:

      This one person is exactly that: one person. His actions are rare. The vast majority of gun owners do not threaten violence. They're ordinary Americans who go about their daily lives just like most everyone else in this country. The first lesson to learn when studying groups is avoiding the fallacy of the hasty generalization.

      But to Jadegold, he may have 250 pounds of guns, but that's a wee bit short of a ton. Still, you're the one who started in on his personal life. I note that none of the authors of this blog want to go into much detail about theirs. Do you have a question in particular that you're curious about, though?

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  4. I haven't found anything yet that shows this guy to be an NRA member, but I haven't really looked either.

    However there are a number of other facts about this gun nut that are sustantiated by other sources. Here is the account from abc.news; there is also a video which obviously I can't embed into a comment.

    By CHRISTINA NG (@ChristinaNg27) and JACK DATE

    July 27, 2012
    One week after Colorado's movie theater shooting, Maryland cops arrested a heavily armed man who told his employer he was a "joker" who was going to "blow everybody up."

    Police said today they believe they "thwarted a massacre."

    The suspect, identified as Neil Edwin Prescott in a court document obtained by ABC News, was being dismissed from his job. He made threatening statements to his supervisor at least twice on Monday, police said.

    Prescott had an arsenal of about 25 firearms at his residence, including semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and handguns, according to a police affidavit. Police said he also had high powered scopes and magazines and thousands of rounds of ammunition in "40 large steel boxes."

    He was quoted as telling his employer, "I am a joker, I'm going to load my guns and blow everybody up," police said.

    "It is clear that the comments made by Prescott reference a recent mass murder which occurred in Colorado within the last several days in which the alleged shooter called himself the Joker, died [sic] his hair red and shot up a movie theater containing men, women and children and showing the 'The Dark Night Rises,'" according to the court document.

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    1. continuing

      "Prescott also stated that he would like to see the supervisor's brain splatter all over the sidewalk," the document said.

      Prescott allegedly acknowledged to his employer that he should not be making these statements over the phone, saying, "It's kind of foolish of me to say this kind of things [sic] over government phone."

      "In light of what happened a week ago in Aurora, Colorado, it's important to know that we take all threats seriously and if you're going to make a threat, we will take action," Prince George's County Chief Mark Magaw said at a news conference today.

      When police arrived at Prescott's house on Thursday to speak to him, he was wearing a t-shirt with the writing, "Guns don't kill people, I do."

      He was taken into custody based on an emergency petition for medical treatment, police said. Authorities said Prescott's demeanor was "very quiet" when he was taken into custody and that he was cooperative.

      Law enforcement sources tell ABC News that he is from Crofton, Md.

      The man was facing termination from his job with a company doing contract work for Pitney Bowes, a leading company in producing postage meters and machines.
      The company released the following statement: "The suspect arrested is an employee of a subcontractor to Pitney Bowes. At Pitney Bowes we have clear security protocol and when we had concerns about this individual, we contacted authorities."

      The Prince George Police Department declined to comment, but said they will be sharing more information at a 1 p.m. news conference.

      On July 20, shooting suspect James Holmes allegedly opened fire in an Aurora, Colo., movie theater during a midnight showing of the new Batman movie, "The Dark Knight Rises." Twelve people were killed and 58 were wounded.

      Holmes told police he was The Joker, a villain in the Batman movies, police said.

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    2. How can anyone take you seriously? Christina NG is an ABC reporter, the same ABC that calls Brian Ross their big-time investigative reporter that Jon Stewart just called out for being a nitwit for reporting the Aurora shooter as being a Tea Party member.
      Real solid source there, DG.
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    3. And there is this from the Huff Po that indicates he frequented gun enthusiast sites (but does not confirm NRA membership - although that is not a huge reach; if we don't know now, we'll know eventually I assume).

      A search for Neil Prescott on a website that tracks users' online activities led to a profile that appears to be him on mdshooters.com, a website for gun enthusiasts. On it, Prescott, who used an online tag of slog403 and identified himself as from Crofton, traded advice with other users about obtaining firearms.

      During a conversation last week about acquiring a 30-round magazine, he indicated he would "never violate MD laws as I respect this site and state." But in a July 18 post, he also said he wished to "unleash 30 rounds of hell" and added a smiley face emoticon. It wasn't clear what he was referring to.

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    4. Aw Orlon- there was not a damn thing wrong with what Brian Ross actually said. He noted there was someone in Aurora Colorado who might be a different person, and that the name was a common one. He never accused the other person of anything; rather he described an attempt to sort out events there in progress.

      I don't think the media was fair to Ross; but to be clear, ABC made clarifications and corrections on their morning program and throughout the day, to make sure there was no confusion between the actual shooter and the old white tea party guy who wrote old white flabby crabby crap on the tea party web site, which if I recall correctly was of the usual belligerant and mean spirited nature. It also issued an apology.

      In contrast, the Breitbart site claimed inaccurately and without anything to base it on, that the shooter was a registered democrat, never made a correction, and never issued an apology.

      So the comparison is that ABC is an excellent and responsible news source with professional and ethical standards, and Breitbart is a lying sack of shit with no standards for either ethics or professional standardds of the lowest order, and a right wing propaganda bunch besides. You like that kind of right wing propaganda Orlon? Fox News is just as bad if not worse (Glenn blubber boy Beck ring a bell?)

      Here is where we're at - Jade called the latest gun nut a member of the NRA; I can't verify that, EITHER WAY, true or false YET. There are a lot of claims being made that throw that around on a lot of sites, but none that show a definitive source for the claim.

      But we also do not know definitively that he is NOT an NRA member, and he has enough qualities in common that as speculation, it isn't an unreasonable expectation. He has appeared to write on web sites where his statements either indicate he is a member, or at the very least supports the NRA agenda. It seems a small distinction to me if he walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, shits like a duck to call him a duck whether he has the little ducky membership card or not.

      He's one of yours Orlon, another one of the gun culture dangerous lunatics; he's not one of ours. He is just one more example of the massive gun culture failure.......that would be epic, massive failure.

      So that puts Jade scoring better on accuracy, and ABC scoring far better on accuracy than anything we've ever seen from you Orlon, or your sources.

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    5. DG, that's some mighty fine critical thinking on your part.
      Let's see: You said, "Aw Orlon- there was not a damn thing wrong with what Brian Ross actually said."

      Really? Then why did you inform us that, " ABC made clarifications and corrections on their morning program and throughout the day... It also issued an apology."

      In other words, your critical thinking tells you ABC made corrections, calrifications and AN APOLOGY because Brian Ross said nothing wrong. Just effing brilliant there, DG/
      LMAO!!!!!!
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  5. So Dog Gone, you're giving Jadegold a pass? If I claimed something with no evidence to support it, you'd be the first to pounce with a wall of text to show how I was wrong. He gets "I haven't really looked. . ."

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    1. No, GC, I'm multisourcing in support of Jade. That is not an absence of evidence; I'm providing you the evidence. I hadn't really looked YET; I'm looking now...

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  6. Verified facts in a breaking story being supplied as they become available is a bit different from the gun nuts who don't get around to them at any point, with any reliability.

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  7. Should we start a betting pool about the NRA membership thing?

    Or does it matter, since this guy was a gun nut anyway?

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  8. But wait: this guy is in the gun control paradise of Maryland. How is this possible?

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    1. Yup, where the gun owner has to be licensed by the state and approved by the police who have the discretion to reject them (at least for another 10 days or so). This is the MikeB paradise where the cops get discretion to issue licenses and they decided this man was good to go.

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    2. And yet he, like the guy in Colorado is one of your gun nuts FWM.... what will be indicative of what side of the divide he falls on would be his love of guns and his love of violence.

      That would only argue why we need more restrictive laws, not against any existing laws or enforcement. It should be interesting to see what MD governor O'Malley has to say; he and Laci used to live next door to each other while they were in law school together....

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    3. Yup, from his writing so far, this guy is just one more gun nut who claims to be law abiding..... and also thinks apparently that includes planning to shoot people and blow shit up.

      So..........why should we believe any of you when you claim to be law abiding gun owners?

      crickets crickets........ more crickets?

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    4. "t should be interesting to see what MD governor O'Malley has to say; he and Laci used to live next door to each other while they were in law school together...."

      Maybe they can have a pity party together now that Maryland's "may issue" scheme has been struck down this week making them now a "shall issue" state.

      Yup, still winning.

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    5. Yes, the Maryland thing is definitely a victory for your side. It's moving things further in the wrong direction and guaranteeing that some people will die there who otherwise wouldn't.

      Congratulations.

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    6. Crickets, Dog Gone? That's rich, since you never answer direct questions posed to you. But I'll answer yours. Why should you believe us?

      1. These incidents are rare, especially in consideration of the total number of gun owners and guns in this country.

      2. Those of us with carry licenses have been checked out more thoroughly than the average and already highly safe set of gun owners.

      3. But most importantly, what your question shows is that you see us as pre-criminals, not good citizens. That's the attitude of an authoritarian, a tyrant.

      I see your crickets and raise you some seagulls.

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    7. I would dispute you have been checked out all that well, or that you are that careful, or that you secure your firearms adequately, or that you take care who you transfer ownership of firearms to; on that basis you are eitehr a criminal, or a pre-criminal, and not good citizens.

      So......have you found any proof yet that Jade was wrong? Have you DISPROVED that the Maryland gun zombie was a member of the NRA?

      Of course not. He was jusst another gun obssessed asshole who thought he was entitled to shoot people.

      Gun nuts are classically defined as having an unreasonable and unrealistic relationship or belief in firearms. That would include EVERY SINGLE PERSON who fails to recognize that shooting back in the Aurora Colorado theater would violated the rules of gun saftey (notably Ted Nugent, the NRA, and a number of right wing fools) and those of you who think you are clear headed and objectively connected to reality enough to decide when and when not to shoot.

      YOU fail, and you have demonstrated repeatedly your inability to engage in critical thinking or judgement.

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    8. "So......have you found any proof yet that Jade was wrong? Have you DISPROVED that the Maryland gun zombie was a member of the NRA?"

      Turns out that the Maryland nut was not an NRA member but was an OWS demonstrator and a Democrat. That stands as fact until proven otherwise according to the DogGone rules.

      Why are OWS supporters so violent?

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    9. Dog Gone,

      1. Do you seriously expect me to discuss in an on-line forum the exact details of how I secure my guns? Suffice it to say that they are under my control. How I do that is not your concern. You draw conclusions based on your biases, but you know nothing.

      2. You dispute that my background has been checked? I've taught high school students--both in schools and as part of the Upward Bound program. They don't exactly let criminals work there. I've had my background checked by three states, and all three have issued me a license.

      3. How careful am I? I haven't shot anyone, had a negligent discharge, or dropped a gun in years of carrying. Beyond that, how do you expect me to measure my degree of care? I realize that you see carrying as a bad choice, period, but many people disagree with you there.

      4. We've argued over firearms sales before. Mostly, I buy. I've only traded one gun and that was for another, so the net change was zero. I've never sold a gun. Besides, if the elderly couple who traded rifles with me are dangerous criminals, we're all screwed.

      5. So all those people in the theater were much better off being unarmed--is that your conclusion?

      Once again, we see that you're blinded by your bias against us. But please, as I've asked you before, lay out the fallacies that you claim to see in my thinking. Don't give me tripe about your overall opinion of me or of us. Be specific.

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  9. Well, I'm willing to bet that you are as wrong about this as you were about this:
    http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2012/02/speaking-of-militias.html

    BTW, did you ever apologize for your carnival of calumny?
    http://www.kake.com/national/headlines/Critical_Charges_Dropped_Against_Michigan_Militia_144407655.html?storySection=story

    Clearly, your knee-jerk reactions can only be described as INSANE.
    Perhaps you are on some sort of mind-altering drug like the Columbine shooters. No rational person would behave the way you do and say such ridiculous things based on nothing other than cops wishing to make themselves look smart or brave.
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    1. Orlon, you are funny.

      Stupid as hell, ignorant as hell - but funny.

      Are you another one of these gun owners who claims to be safe, claims to be law abiding, and then does shit like this?

      Define mind-altering drugs by the way, and give some facts about the Columbine shooters. One of the more interesting things about the Columbine shootings is the interviews with the authors of books about the tragedy which highlight how badly wrong the reporting has been about the shooters.

      I doubt you have any facts other than possibly the names of the shooters at Columbine correct, and maybe their ages.

      Are you arguing Orlon (as in synthetic fluff for brains) that the Militia in Michigan were good guys who were law abiding gun owners? I don't apologize for any of what I said about them.

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    2. DG, get over yourself.

      http://www.ssristories.com/index.php

      Eric Harris age 17 (Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 in Colombine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado, killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and injured 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.

      Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

      Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

      Thirteen-year-old Chris Fetters killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

      Twelve-year-old Christopher Pittman murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

      Thirteen-year-old Mathew Miller hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

      Fifteen-year-old Jarred Viktor stabbed his grandmother 61 times after 5 days on Paxil.

      Fifteen-year-old Kip Kinkel (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

      Luke Woodham age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

      Michael Carneal (Ritalin) a 14-year-old opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

      Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

      James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

      Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

      Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

      Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

      Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said ".... the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…")

      Matthew Miller was 13 saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty and school. The psychiatrist recommended Zoloft for him. Seven days after beginning the Zioloft samples, his mother found him dead… hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

      A ten-year-old boy from Houston shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

      22-year-old culinary student Matti Saari shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

      27-year-old Steven Kazmierczak shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien.

      18-year-old Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.

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    3. What is ignorant is simply saying the person is a gunloon without looking at Big Pharma as part of the problem in these 'out of the blue' killings and murders.
      How difficult is it to see a common denominator in shootings, beatings, and hangings that happen 'out-of-the-blue'?
      I guess it is just easier to focus on guns than to truly examine what causes a 'normal' person to go nuts.
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    4. Do you know the levels of any prescribed medication in the shooters system at the time of the shootings in Columbine? Are you certain about the causality? If there was a solid and established causality for the shootings, don't you thinkt there would law suits over it? Are there any that you know of that I've missed?

      Do you understand causality Anonyomous? Do you have any basis for claiming that any of the other murder suicides, homicides, and assorted mass shootings like the one in Tuscaloosa Alabama a day or so ahead of the Aurora Colorado shooting were pharm driven?

      What is the common denominator is not the drugs, it is that the shooters had relatively easy access to guns. In the Columbine shooting, that included a straw purchase and gun show purchase.

      The drugs aren't killing people, GUNS are the key common denominator. It is the common and proximate causation in every single shooting case. Without guns being available those shootings would not occur.

      That guns were accumulated, that ammo was accumulated, and that these individuals had obsessions with firearms is clear. You have yet to get past that threshold of logic, and you have yet to establish a clear causation for anything other than guns.

      Without guns there could still have been problems for these individuals, but they wouldn't have killed this many people, and would have been far less likely to kill themselves.

      And that is clear in other civilized and developed countries WITHOUT OUR GUN CULTURE PROBLEM. It is our gun culture which is the massive failure, and the massive quantity of firearms that are the problem.

      When we no longer have the every-couple-of-weeks accidental gun discharges at WalMart by gun carriers - mostly legal, and all of whom would happily tell you how damned safe they are, and when we no longer have the weekly accidental deaths of children, especially very young children, from firearms -- THEN and ONLY THEN can you try blaming something other than guns.

      It is our gun culture and our gun policies and laws that are part of the problem, but at the heart of the problem are the firearms, consistently.

      You have yet to argue around that core point --- because you are unable to do so.

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    5. And you, Dog Gone, have yet to get past the threshold of basic statistics. You insist on making the hasty generalization that gun owners are dangerous, simply because a tiny few do bad things.

      If guns were responsible for these incidents, we'd all be dead. There are that many guns in this country. If guns were the sole element that magnified the level of violence, we'd all be dead. Something else is going on here--the inherent riskiness of life.

      On the other hand, if gun control laws prevented murder, Puerto Rico would have the lowest homicide rate in U.S. territory. It has just about the strictest laws going, and yet, it's murder rate is the highest.

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    6. DG said:
      The drugs aren't killing people, GUNS are the key common denominator. It is the common and proximate causation in every single shooting case.

      Gee, do ya think?
      However, what is seen as a common denominator is rational, reasonable, logical people going nuts and committing violent acts because of drugs provided by Big Pharma. So, you are correct, in the sense that guns are responsible for shootings, but drugs are the common denominator in the cases of people using bats, knives and guns, people that prior to be given these horrible drugs were fine and dandy.
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  10. Somebody want to bet money on whether Prescott is a cardcarrying NRA member?

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  11. Regardless of where this guy lives or the laws in that locale, this guy is a jackass for running his mouth.

    That said, what are the sources that tell us his acne and purported poor social skills are typical of gun owners?

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  12. I have no idea whether this fellow is a member of the NRA or any other organization. But anyone who sends in membership dues can be, just as with many other advocacy groups. At least no one has wondered whether he holds a carry license or not. Perhaps that's because Maryland doesn't like to give those out--although Judge Legg's ruling may change things in that regard.

    The point is that there was a claim made that this man is a member of the NRA. That statement is presented as a positive fact, when it's actually a guess. Dog Gone, you're not so tolerant when your opponents try that. Why are you letting Jadegold get away with it?

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    1. I don't know if he is or if he is not an NRA member; I'm simply not going to fault Jade until I know which it is.

      You got proof he isn't? Then you haven't proven Jade in accurate.

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    2. Dog Gone, I don't have to prove a negative. Jadegold asserted a statement of fact. He has no evidence to support that assertion. My work is done. That's logic--what you claim to value.

      In addition, when have you ever given my side the same courtesy?

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  13. Oh, and in unrelated news, WINNING:

    http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2012/nra-stops-un-arms-trade-treaty.aspx

    So I'm still confused. Is the NRA a paper tiger whose power is a myth or are they so big they can bring the world to their knees? I forget which it is this week.

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    1. Aw FWM, you should know the NRA isn't reliable for information. You told us that the requirement by the Obama administration for gun stores in the southwestern states was illegal on the basis of a claim by the NRA, and that turned out to be false - the Obama admin was upheld by the courts.

      The NRA is on their way out; for a time they wielded too much power. Breaking ALEC down did a lot to neuter their extremist influence.

      Winning:http://penigma.blogspot.com/2012/07/are-voters-showing-buyers-remorse-for.html
      and here:
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/24/gun-owners-frank-luntz_n_1699140.html

      Losing: all the copy cat attempts by gun nuts after Aurora Co, all the arguments for ignoring the most important fundamental gun safety rules by those who think theater goers should have been armed and shot back.
      And of course all of the events like this massive gun culture failure : http://penigma.blogspot.com/2012/07/another-child-dead-from-firearm.html

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    2. "You told us that the requirement by the Obama administration for gun stores in the southwestern states was illegal on the basis of a claim by the NRA, and that turned out to be false - the Obama admin was upheld by the courts."

      The courts upheld Heller but that hasn't stopped Laci's crying about how they are all wrong and only he knows what is right.

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    3. Dog Gone, I recall your gleeful predictions that Scott Walker would be tossed out of office in Wisconsin. Oops.

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  14. Thanks for a most enjoyable post and comment thread. The point I take from all this is there are too many unfit people out there with guns. Notwithstanding FWM's mind reading about how I feel about Maryland, there is not enough oversight and screening. This cartoon character that Jadegold posted about is a perfect illustration.

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    1. Will there be an article here about Judge Legg's ruling that the may-issue carry licensing system in Maryland is unconstitutional? I'm looking forward to seeing that work its way through the courts.

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