I always find Moyers to be thoughtful, even when I disagree with him. Mikeb, you should get him to write for your blog. He's being a mite histrionic here, but his calm voice would be refreshing.
And here is another way the NRA is trying to profit from mass shootings; they are despicable; they have blood on their hands, the blood of innocent victims, all for profit.
So, Moyers hails a pawn shop owner who makes his living selling legal, inanimate objects, but now decides to let his business go to hell so he and his family can go on food stamps. Brilliant!!!!!
Losing money on items that kill people is a moral decision that might reduce one's profit margin, but the space used for guns will no doubt be used for other items instead. It does not equate to letting his business go to hell.
But apparently you are not used to being around people of conscience, who of course naturally think differently, and better, than you do.
No one mentioned food stamps; that was just another thing masquerading as thinking that you pulled out of your ass, which is what you appear to use instead of your brain.
There is of course a distinct difference between inanimate objects and those designed specifically as weapons. That is why there is a big difference between blunt trauma deaths and deaths from firearms. Intellectually dishonest people make false claims about baseball bat deaths, while misrepresenting those deaths from firearms. It is true that there are more deaths from handguns than from long barrel firearms, but there are far more deaths (and far more injuries) from every kind of firearms, no matter how you try to spin it, than there are from items not designed or intended to be used as weapons.
If you have to be this dishonest Orlon, then you yourself clearly are lying to yourself as well as trying to lie to us.
But then you don't do well separating fact from fiction; you've proven that many times over. The facts are pretty much never your friend, and critical thinking skills and intellectual honesty are both alien to you.
Perhaps you are simply incapable of either honesty or thinking.
My dearest DG,, the pawn shop owner is the one who said he would probably go out of business. You might wanna pay attention before you go making more stupid and inaccurate wordy wordiness statements.
Dog Gone, is there any point in answering you? You don't come back to carry on the discussion. If you would, I'd be happy to talk about any fact that you wish to name. I'd be happy to discuss values and hypotheses, as well. I'll identify them as such, of course.
This is the distinction between 'inanimate objects' and firearms:
According to the CDC, in 2010 there were only 912 total deaths from blunt force trauma (all causes). In the same year, 31,672 Americans were killed with firearms.
When those two numbers, for deaths from blunt force trauma or other means of killing people exceed triple digits, moving into the five digit range, and firearms deaths are measured under 1,000.......then you can use the inanimate object argument.
Otherwise it has been shitcanned permanently as being false.
Guns are legal to own in this country--at least in most of it. Demeaning guns is a desperate attempt to run away from our real problems. We won't allow you to infringe on our rights just on the promise of some pie-in-the-sky solution.
in·an·i·mate (n-n-mt) adj. 1. Not having the qualities associated with active, living organisms. See Synonyms at dead. 2. Not animated or energetic; dull.
My dearest DG, You might wanna consider purchasing one of those big books with all the words in it.
I always find Moyers to be thoughtful, even when I disagree with him. Mikeb, you should get him to write for your blog. He's being a mite histrionic here, but his calm voice would be refreshing.
ReplyDeleteThe only person who is histrionic and irrational is La Pierre.
DeleteMoyers is a national treasure.
And here is another way the NRA is trying to profit from mass shootings; they are despicable; they have blood on their hands, the blood of innocent victims, all for profit.
Deletehttp://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/asa-hutchinson-nra-pinkerton-securitas-lobbyist
Moyers, as a member of the clergy as well as a journalist, demonstrates the values you would expect of a baptist minister.
Mother Jones is your source? No wonder you lean so far to the left. As for Baptist ministers, I have few expectations, since I'm not Baptist.
DeleteSo, Moyers hails a pawn shop owner who makes his living selling legal, inanimate objects, but now decides to let his business go to hell so he and his family can go on food stamps. Brilliant!!!!!
ReplyDeleteorlin sellers
Losing money on items that kill people is a moral decision that might reduce one's profit margin, but the space used for guns will no doubt be used for other items instead. It does not equate to letting his business go to hell.
DeleteBut apparently you are not used to being around people of conscience, who of course naturally think differently, and better, than you do.
No one mentioned food stamps; that was just another thing masquerading as thinking that you pulled out of your ass, which is what you appear to use instead of your brain.
There is of course a distinct difference between inanimate objects and those designed specifically as weapons. That is why there is a big difference between blunt trauma deaths and deaths from firearms. Intellectually dishonest people make false claims about baseball bat deaths, while misrepresenting those deaths from firearms. It is true that there are more deaths from handguns than from long barrel firearms, but there are far more deaths (and far more injuries) from every kind of firearms, no matter how you try to spin it, than there are from items not designed or intended to be used as weapons.
If you have to be this dishonest Orlon, then you yourself clearly are lying to yourself as well as trying to lie to us.
But then you don't do well separating fact from fiction; you've proven that many times over. The facts are pretty much never your friend, and critical thinking skills and intellectual honesty are both alien to you.
Perhaps you are simply incapable of either honesty or thinking.
My dearest DG,, the pawn shop owner is the one who said he would probably go out of business. You might wanna pay attention before you go making more stupid and inaccurate wordy wordiness statements.
Deleteyour friend
orlin
Dog Gone, is there any point in answering you? You don't come back to carry on the discussion. If you would, I'd be happy to talk about any fact that you wish to name. I'd be happy to discuss values and hypotheses, as well. I'll identify them as such, of course.
DeleteHere you go Orlon fluff instead of brains:
ReplyDeleteThis is the distinction between 'inanimate objects' and firearms:
According to the CDC, in 2010 there were only 912 total deaths from blunt force trauma (all causes). In the same year, 31,672 Americans were killed with firearms.
When those two numbers, for deaths from blunt force trauma or other means of killing people exceed triple digits, moving into the five digit range, and firearms deaths are measured under 1,000.......then you can use the inanimate object argument.
Otherwise it has been shitcanned permanently as being false.
Guns are legal to own in this country--at least in most of it. Demeaning guns is a desperate attempt to run away from our real problems. We won't allow you to infringe on our rights just on the promise of some pie-in-the-sky solution.
Deletein·an·i·mate (n-n-mt)
Deleteadj.
1. Not having the qualities associated with active, living organisms. See Synonyms at dead.
2. Not animated or energetic; dull.
My dearest DG,
You might wanna consider purchasing one of those big books with all the words in it.
your friend,
orlin