Saturday, January 12, 2013

The Pendulum is Swinging Towards Gun Control

Politico
A powerful anti-illegal-guns group has attracted more than 400,000 new members since the Dec. 14 shooting in Newtown, Conn., a spokeswoman told POLITICO Thursday, swinging back several hours after the National Rifle Association also claimed big membership gains.

“Since Newtown we’ve had more than 400k people join Mayors Against Illegal Guns,” said Erika Soto Lamb, the communications director for the organization, in an email. “Our Demand A Plan petition now has more than 900,000 petition signers.”

29 comments:

  1. Gunsucks make a lot of money selling illegal guns. Only a person who is financially involved in illegal guns opposes registration of guns.

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    1. I have no financial interest and adamantly oppose registration schemes. Canada is eliminating their registries, they were WAY over budget and offered no benefit. Oh, and are you able to post without ad hominems?

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    2. Rev,

      He doesn't know how to talk without some form of insult, libel, laughter at the murder of a gun owner, or combination of the three.

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    3. I oppose registration of guns, and I've made no money in the sale of firearms.

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  2. In her resignation letter, Mayor Patricia Shontz of Madeira Beach, Florida wrote, “I am withdrawing because I believe the MAIG is attempting to erode all gun ownership, not just illegal guns. Additionally, I have learned that the MAIG may be working on issues which conflict with legal gun ownership.” She added, “It appears the MAIG has misrepresented itself to the Mayors of America and its citizens. This is gun control, not crime prevention.”

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    1. Sounds like she just wanted to get re-elected. MAIG mayors don't do too will in FL.

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  3. In his resignation letter to Bloomberg, Mayor Harry Moore stated: "It is simply unconscionable that this coalition, under your leadership, would call for a repeal of the Shelby /Tiahrt amendment that helps to safeguard criminal investigations and the lives of law enforcement officers, witnesses and others by restricting access to firearms trace data solely to law enforcement. How anyone, least of all a public official, could be willing to sacrifice such a law enforcement lifeline in order to gain an edge in suing an industry they have political differences with is repugnant to me. The fact that your campaign against this protective language consisted of overheated rhetoric, deception and falsehoods is disturbing."[

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  4. The resignations of Kevin Jackson and Jared Fuhriman left the state of Idaho completely unrepresented in the organization, and Alaska with just one representative mayor. Since Mayor Rocky Anderson of Salt Lake City left office, it has also left Utah unrepresented. Mayor Kathy Taylor of Tulsa, Oklahoma has announced that she will not seek re-election[87], and as of September, 2009, her name has been removed from the coalition's roster. This also leaves Oklahoma unrepresented. According to the U.S. Conference of Mayors there are 1,201 cities in the US with a population of 30,000 or more that are headed by mayors.[88] Several of the mayors in the Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition represent even smaller towns and cities--particularly in New Jersey and Pennsylvania, which are disproportionately represented.

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  5. Former Mayor Gary Becker[3] of Racine, Wisconsin is under five felony indictments for child pornography, attempted child sexual assault and child enticement.[4] He resigned after pleading not guilty and being released on bond.[5]He was later convicted and received a three year felony sentence in prison. [6]
    Former Mayor David Delle Donna[7], of Guttenberg, New Jersey was indicted under a Federal extortion and mail fraud charges.[8] He was convicted in 2008[9] and sentenced to four years and three months in federal prison.[10]
    Mayor Sheila Dixon was indicted in 2009 on twelve counts[11], comprising four counts of perjury, two counts of misconduct, three counts of theft, and three counts of fraudulent misappropriations.[12] The felony theft charges stem partly from incidents in 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007 in which she allegedly misappropriated gift cards intended for the poor and used them for personal purchases.[13][14] Dixon was eventually convicted, but on January 6, 2010, under a pre-arranged plea agreement reached with prosecutors, Dixon announced that she was resigning as Mayor, effective February 4, 2010. Under the terms of the agreement Dixon got "probation before judgment" (PBJ). A PBJ is not considered a "conviction", thus enabling her to keep her $83,000 pension.

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  6. Mayor Jerramiah Healy was convicted for obstruction of justice in 2007[16] and more recently was implicated in the corruption sweep in New Jersey involving the sale of body parts and money laundering. In all, 44 individuals were indicted. (Healy was named as "JC Official 4" and implicated, but was not indicted, in the probe.)[17][18][19]
    Former Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick was indicted, arrested, and convicted. and subsequently jailed for 99 days. Kilpatrick pleaded guilty to two felony obstruction of justice charges stemming from his efforts to cover up an extramarital affair. He also pleaded no contest to charges of assaulting a police officer attempting to serve a subpoena on a Kilpatrick friend in that case.[20] The charges and allegations (not all against Kilpatrick himself) were of marital infidelity, conspiracy, perjury, corruption and murder.[21] Following Kilpatrick's conviction, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms called on Kilpatrick to resign from the Coalition.[22]
    Mayor Larry Langford was investigated in 2007 by the SEC on corruption charges. In 2008 a lawsuit was filed against him for illegally accepting $156,000 in cash and benefits. On December 1, 2008, Larry Langford was arrested by the FBI on a 101 count indictment[23] alleging conspiracy, bribery, fraud, money laundering, and filing false tax returns[24] in connection with a long-running bribery scheme.[25][26][27] On December 1, 2008, Langford, along with William B. Blount and Al LaPierre, was arrested by the FBI on a 101-count indictment alleging conspiracy, bribery, fraud, money laundering, and filing false tax returns in connection with a long-running bribery scheme.[28] His public corruption trial ended on October 28, 2009 with convictions on 60 counts, and resulted in his automatic removal from office.[29]

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  7. There exists much more evidence of MAIG's lack of integrity, but the point has been made.

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    1. Rev,

      Thanks for taking the time to pull together all of these items.

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    2. Guess what, mayors are politicians. Politicians are frequently involved in white-collar crime, which is what most of your list is. The post was not about the increase in mayors who've joined but about civilians. It seems MAIG has "benefited" more than the NRA over recent developments.

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    3. Part of the reason for that is that joining the NRA requires paying dues, not just sign up for an e-mail list, and a lot of people would rather spend that money on other things.

      MAIG petition signers vs. NRA members is an apples to oranges comparison

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    4. Mayors Against Guns has a problem with appearance. Given all the felons in their ranks, it seems that they don't want citizens being better armed than they can be, legally.

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    5. What "Felons" do you speak of?

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    6. E.N., did you read the list above? That's a small sample of the mayors who are felons.

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    7. Yes, I read the list. However, I guess your trainers at the Zoo didn't teach you to do so, as they are clearly not mayors anymore.

      If you want to use Marion Marry as an example (when he served his fourth term as Mayor of the District from 1995-1999 and still represents the 8th ward of that City) as a "Felon" who served as mayor of a populous City, you must note that his conviction was a misdemeanor.

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    8. So your defense is that these felons committed their crimes while in office, but got booted out, so they don't qualify as mayors? The convolutions of your "reasoning" are fun to watch.

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  8. More to follow. http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2013/Introduced/HB0104.pdf laws can be passed on a federal level but the state can shoose not to follow said laws.

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  9. You keep believing it mikey, meanwhile I'll look at gun stores with empty shelves because they literally can't keep inventory in stock. Heck I can't hardly find reloading components anymore. But you keep thinking you are winning

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    1. Scott, it's the newly convinced people that make the difference. Since that shooting in CT, the country is seriously interested in gun control for the first time in many years. Gun sales are due to the fears of those who already own guns.

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    2. A significant number of people are first time buyers. There are news stories nation wide where people are telling interviewers about how they are getting their first gun or how they are seeing an influx of first time buyers to their shops, etc.

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    3. I know that, but the numbers are insignificant. First time gun buyers are like female gun buyers, a tiny fraction.

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    4. You keep believing that mikey. After the shooting I had 3 women I never thought would be interested in guns ask me for help in selecting a handgun and getting training. Now they are on their way to getting a CHL. But you keep thinking it is all OFWG. People can read headlines and realize that with cities cutting police departments it it up to them to protect themselves.

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    5. Yup, I know of several women in my area doing the same--getting guns and getting licenses to carry them. The key to stopping the gun control freaks is increased saturation of the market. More and more gun owners and more and more license holders means gun control will never work.

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    6. Yes there are some, here and there. They don't add up to shit.

      More people than than are quitting the NRA, except you won't hear about that from them.

      Here's why.

      http://mikeb302000.blogspot.it/2013/01/the-method-behind-wayne-la-pierres.html

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    7. Mikeb, you didn't offer any evidence of people leaving the NRA in that article.

      But tell us this. If my anecdotal evidence doesn't add up to shit, why does yours? You cite news articles and stories from here and there all the time as proof that you're right and you're winning.

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