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Exactly. #MomsDemand #NotOneMore #gunsense pic.twitter.com/6QwnV8dzqS— Deb White (@debb2098) October 13, 2014
Exactly. #MomsDemand #NotOneMore #gunsense pic.twitter.com/6QwnV8dzqS
"In April 2012, the Boston Herald drew attention to Warren's law directory entries from 1986 to 1995, in which she had self-identified as having Native American ancestry. Because of these entries, Harvard Law School had added her to a list of minority professors in response to criticisms about a lack of faculty diversity. Warren said that she was unaware that Harvard had done so until she read about it in a newspaper."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren#Native_American_controversyHonesty indeed.....
You better start early with the Warren bashing because you're going to be seeing a lot of her over the next decade or two.
Of course you found a site that disputes the claim. Others say she indeed has a 1/32nd part Native American blood. It reminds me of the Obama birth certificate nonsense. As I said, you get started early and this could really turn into something for you.
"Others say she indeed has a 1/32nd part Native American blood." The problem being is that she cant prove it. In fact, if what you say is true, it doesn't even meet the federal benchmark."But, the federal government has its own standards related to who qualifies for services available to certified Native Americans. For instance, federal scholarships for Native Americans require the student both to be enrolled in a federally recognized tribe and to be of at least one-quarter Native American descent (equivalent to one grandparent), attested to by a Certificate of Degree of Indian Blood (CDIB) card issued by the federal government."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States#Who_are_Native_Americans.3F
How ridiculous. Got anything better to oppose her on, or is this more of your "gotch" unimportant crap?
Hell, there are similar rumors of Native American blood in my family tree--rumors that may well be true since intermarriage was common in the area, and the Cherokee often took Western names, leaving very little evidence.If Warren wants to say, "Hey, we have this family tale, and I'm proud of that ancestry too," fine. But she apparently went around putting it on forms to use it for her advantage. That would never fly if I tried to use it here, yet you are defending her.So, either recognize that I am a Native American and apologize for accusing me of racism, or admit that Warren has unjustly taken advantage of the system.
Also, I have to say that it's darkly funny to see Mike justifying her claim of being 1/32 whatever tribe, and seeing federal laws requiring one to be at least 1/4 native to get special treatment. Can't help but think of all the Jim Crow laws and categorization of mixed race people--Quadroon, Octaroon, etc.Gotta love affirmative action--getting us past racism by using the same concerns over percentage of certain ethnicities.
"How ridiculous. Got anything better to oppose her on, or is this more of your "gotch" unimportant crap?" Not too long ago, Dog Gone was suggesting that a Republican candidate wasn't ethical enough to be a proper elected representative because of accusations of plagiarism. And then in what can only be construed to be an example of consistency, said that a Democratic candidate should be held to the same standard. This doesn't seem all that different than those instances. Other than it came out after she took office.
I don't think there was special treatment. That's part of the exaggerated bullshit claim. The lack of proof is easily explained by the fact that in the early 20th century there was such a stigma on being Native that people tried to conceal the fact.
As I said, taking Western names to hide one's origin was common. Yeah, it explains there being no proof. But if there's no proof, you don't go putting yourself down as Native American in an attempt to benefit, whether or not benefits were received.
????If no benefit can be received who cares? Repeating family stories that cannot be proven one way, or another is not an attempt to deceive. If your mother tells you you are 1/3 Irish would you assume she was lying? You loons love to get all worked up over nothing, like your certainty that guns will be banned and illegal just because some people want gun safety rules to help stop the undeniable unnecessary gun shot deaths in America.
"I don't think there was special treatment." I'm not sure there was any direct benefit for her either beyond "bragging rights", similar to someone making claims that they were awarded this or that medal in whatever conflict. However, somewhere she had it entered in a law directory for just under ten years. I bet it was a bit embarrassing to be caught in such unverifiable bragging when a school used her claim to show the school's diversity. Wouldn't you expect an attorney to not make such unverified claims? But there is someone who speaks to this better than I,"Ali Sacks, a Cherokee from Warren’s home state of Oklahoma, had harsher words: “It’s cowardly to ride the coattails of people who have lost so much for your own benefit and not accomplish what you can accomplish on your own benefits. I think it’s shameful and extremely disrespectful not just to Cherokees but to all tribes who have given so much to this country historically and lost so much.”http://web.archive.org/web/20120627042357/http://bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/20220619cherokee_women_to_elizabeth_warren_stop_ducking_us"In April 2012, the Boston Herald drew attention to Warren's law directory entries from 1986 to 1995, in which she had self-identified as having Native American ancestry. Because of these entries, Harvard Law School had added her to a list of minority professors in response to criticisms about a lack of faculty diversity. Warren said that she was unaware that Harvard had done so until she read about it in a newspaper."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren#Native_American_controversy
"If your mother tells you you are 1/3 Irish would you assume she was lying?"I would assume she is lying, yes. If she said I was 1/4 Irish, I would believe it. Or I'd have to explain to her how a drunken ménage a trois with an Irishman and an Italian doesn't make me 1/3 irish. It means I'm either half Irish, or half Italian.
The troll without reading comprehension strikes again. I said I have no problem with her repeating family stories--I repeated my own. The problem is when you put it down seeking to benefit because you bring "diversity."I said it matters that she Tried to receive benefit, whether or not she succeeded, not that none could have been received--even Mike didn't try to make that claim.
Oh, and if my mother claimed I was 1/3 Irish I would assume she was either lying or couldn't do math.
No surprise the gun loons here are all worked up over a stupid thing. I guess they are all Republicans taking a cheap shot at a Democrat. There's no other rational explanation for them going idiotic over such a ridiculous issue.
Here's a question I want to throw out there to the legal professionals we have frequenting here. I've honestly never looked in a law directory before. The question being what is it used for? My presumption is that its somewhat akin to a phone book where you can look up a legal professional's contact information and qualifications. Or is it just some social networking thing like Facebook? I ask because I'm trying to get an idea of why Warren would put something in a directory which I was thinking should be providing information for someone choosing counsel.
"you don't go putting yourself down as Native American in an attempt to benefit"But, we don't know it that's what her intention was."I'm not sure there was any direct benefit for her either beyond "bragging rights", similar to someone making claims that they were awarded this or that medal in whatever conflict. "That's a ludicrous comparison. Better would be a decorated soldier who lost his medal and citation and during an interview years later says he'd been awarded the medal.
SSG,Each state handles it differently, but the state licensing board will maintain a directory of all attorneys licensed in the state. The information in these resources varies. Potential clients can search these resources, or try to find an attorney using Linkdin or various other independent directories.
Got to love these dishonest gun loons and SS. They turn a statement on guns to an attack about her percentage (or lack of) of American Indian ancestry. Can't get much more dishonest than that. They must be very afraid that she might become president. Just as all their garbage aimed at Obama is racist, now their misogyny is showing its ugly head. These guys hate everyone but white men. Maybe they are gay.
"They turn a statement on guns to an attack about her percentage (or lack of) of American Indian ancestry. " Actually Anon, Mike named the topic. That being Warren's potential for becoming the first female President. I brought up an issue that would suggest some ethical decision making issues. Something quite germane considering the military power that Laci likes to brag up regularly. Mike tried to make an argument regarding her percentage of ancestry. As I commented earlier, DG suggested that similar lapses suggested that Republican candidates actions showed their unworthiness to hold congressional office. DG was even consistent enough to suggest a Democratic candidate was also unworthy of office when committing a similar lapse. You on the other hand tried the it isn't a big deal defense and when the discussion using real live facts continued, you threw out the accusation of misogyny. But that kind of thing seems to happen a lot when the discussion doesn't go your way.
This is the same as the birther issue for Obama and you are pushing it. To bad you don't have better judgment, but it does show you gun loon characteristics.
The majority of those children are 16-17 year old gang members. Thugs gonna thug.
Actually Anon, the statement above uses a common (for them) technique of statistical sleight of hand. Throwing the term teenagers into the statement allows them to include 18 and 19 year olds, who are actually more commonly referred to as adults. This effectively doubles the number of deaths.http://webappa.cdc.gov/cgi-bin/broker.exe
That's not a trick. If it were it would have to be better disguised, don't you think?Whether it's a 19-year-old gang member of a 5-year-old child, access to guns by people who shouldn't have them is the problem. And everything you guys stand for makes that ever more possible.