Friday, June 13, 2014

Gun Violence at U.S. Schools Rises Sharply

A fatal shooting in Oregon on Tuesday was the 31st firearms attack at a U.S. school since the start of the year, marking a sharp acceleration in the rash of violence that has occurred on campuses across the nation.
The incidents range from the 20 people shot near UC Santa Barbara less than threeweeks ago to gunfire that resulted in no injuries at all.
The frequency of attacks has picked up since the December 2012 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn., where 20 first-graders and six adults were gunned down.
In the 18 months since that tragedy, 41 deaths have occurred in 62 documented incidents at U.S. schools. In the 18 months before that attack, there were 17 deaths in 17 incidents. Everytown.org, a group that promotes gun safety, lists 72 incidents since Sandy Hook.
The increase comes at a time when all types of violent gun deaths have been essentially flat since about 2000, following a sharp drop since the 1980s, when such deaths peaked in the U.S.

8 comments:

  1. "In the 18 months since that tragedy, 41 deaths have occurred in 62 documented incidents at U.S. schools. In the 18 months before that attack, there were 17 deaths in 17 incidents. Everytown.org, a group that promotes gun safety, lists 72 incidents since Sandy Hook."

    Very poor fact checking. Everytown seems to be following in the footsteps of the VPC in the area of making stuff up and hoping no one checks. Even CNN has called BS on Everytown's numbers.

    "CNN determined that 15 of the incidents Everytown included were situations similar to the violence in Newtown or Oregon -- a minor or adult actively shooting inside or near a school. That works out to about one such shooting every five weeks, a startling figure in its own right."

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/11/us/school-shootings-cnn-number/index.html

    As I've often said before, the true numbers are troubling enough. However, trying to inflate the numbers only hurts the credibility of your side. This number now get included into the same category as the VPC's inaccurate "Concealed Carry Killers" database.

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    1. If the real? numbers are startling enough, what do you suggest we do to curb those numbers?

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    2. I thought the problem with the concealed carry killers' numbers is that they're way under-reported.

      About your nit picking criticism of the report, it's the same thing you do when they report how many kids are shot. You quibble about the age cut-off and question what the definition of kid should be. Instead, like Anonymous said, we have a major problem here and you're avoiding the discussion of its solution.

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    3. "You quibble about the age cut-off and question what the definition of kid should be."

      Remember this? Yep, it got counted as a school shooting. How exactly are stricter gun laws going to prevent this one?

      "Three California elementary school students were wounded in an allegedly accidental shooting with a police weapon at a safety demonstration on Wednesday, the Los Angeles Times reported."

      http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2013/10/california-students-hurt-in-accidental.html

      There are also incidents involving people who happen to be using the school parking lot. The kind of linkage Baldr likes to make on his Walmart Shootings page.

      Unfortunately, both Everytown and CNN don't go into great detail regarding why they considered a shooting valid or not. And I don't have the spare time to check them all with the Army keeping me busy at present.
      CNN aint the Blaze though. If anything, they tend to lean in the other direction. I personally do consider a student suicide at school a valid school shooting. But the scan I did shows some issues.
      I'm sure somewhere someone has done a closer look since Everytown does list the events, you just need to search each one to read about it.

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    4. Debating definitions while being unwilling to do anything about preventable deaths. Your gun loon credentials are solid.

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    5. "How exactly are stricter gun laws going to prevent this one?"

      Very unfair question.

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  2. Let's take an actual look at those shootings

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/10/wow-journalist-attempts-to-debunk-anti-gun-groups-list-of-school-shootings-in-america-since-sandy-hook-heres-what-he-found/

    orlin sellers

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    1. When you get all your information from Fox News and The Blaze, nonsense like this makes sense to you.

      "“It’s not a school shooting when someone goes and shoots a specific person on campus. It’s a shooting that happens to take place at school,” he wrote."

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