BIG NEWS: Proponents of a reckless recall effort targeting Oregon State Sen. Floyd Prozanski have come up short.
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— Everytown (@Everytown) 12 Settembre 2015BIG NEWS: Proponents of a reckless recall effort targeting Oregon State Sen. Floyd Prozanski have come up short.
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— Everytown (@Everytown) 12 Settembre 2015
Not sure what's "reckless" about it. No ground was lost in the attempt. I don't think you seem to get that if gun rights supporters attempt to recall 100 politicians and even if only one succeeds- that's a win. How many politicians have been recalled for supporting gun rights? Zero.
ReplyDeleteVery true TS. One has but to look at Colorado to see the positive impact.
DeleteThe state senators who chose to sacrifice their own careers have been cut down, but their accomplishments still stand as the law of Colorado.
DeleteC'mon, you guys are really stretching. Colorado was 2 out of 35. Oregon is zero after several attempts. Where's your big numbers and majorities?
DeleteOh, and let's not forget the offensive laws are still in place in both states.
Delete"Colorado was 2 out of 35. Oregon is zero after several attempts."
DeleteWell Mike, in 2012, the Democrats held a five seat majority in the Colorado Senate and in just three years it has turned into a one seat majority for the Republicans. It will be interesting to see what happens in '16.
Well, there were three in Colorado (one fell on her own sword), and like I said, exactly zero pro gun legislators have been recalled for being pro gun anywhere in the country. So the score is 3-0. I guess you're a "glass is half-full" kind of guy in that your rebuttal is "at least the score isn't 35-0". Ok, then. Good for you to look on the bright side, though I don't why you say 35, because that's the total number of seats including Republicans who opposed the gun control measures. The Colorado state senate is now in majority control of the Republicans, so that's a big deal too.
DeleteIt's interesting to know gun loons think recalls are the way to majority representation.
DeleteWell, the gun control lobby has recently fallen in love of referendums. How is that any different than a recall? Both are ways to correct politicians not voting the wishes of the people.
DeleteYour response is not true, as usual. You always reply with a comparison YOU think applies, when it has nothing to do with the point made. Just more proof of your dishonesty, and thanks for that.
DeleteRight SS, the will of the people represented by 18% of the voters. So a majority vote put them in office, and a minority vote put them out of office, that's democracy? Only in your delusional mind.
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ReplyDeleteThat's because it's not rational to recall a politician based on political differences. The original intent of at least California's law was to recall an incompetent or corrupt official. Not to reverse elections. I'm not going to complain about Gray Davis being replaced by Schwarzeneggar. At lease he did repeal the car tax. And thank the goddess that Issa was sent home crying.
I imagine that the main reason that Governor Walker's recall failed was because it was purely political. However, in his case, I was willing to make an exception.
It's a tool that is there for the people to use as they see fit. I don't know how you can determine the intent of thousands and thousands of people anyway. I am glad to see it used this way because it sends a clear message. Had the people just waited until the next general election, Mike, being the optimist that he is, would say "well, that was for other reasons". Its pretty hard to say that as is.
DeleteFlying Junior: "And thank the goddess that Issa was sent home crying."
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Isn't he still in office?
Darrell Issa wanted to be the governor of California. He was the leader of the effort to recall Gray Davis.
DeleteGot it, thanks.
DeleteThe gun guys, particularly the extremist Oregon Firearms Federation who has bankrolled the recall attempts, have been the laughing stock of the community with this. All four of their recall attempts failed miserably. The first two fizzled. Both of the other two had complaints lodged against them for racketeering. One of those ended when the legislator changed positions (and they weren't getting enough signatures anyhow), and the final one died when the Secretary of State detemined that a *fifth* of the petition signatures (2000 out of 10,000) were either repeats or not validated as registered voters in the legislator's district. See my blog post, here: http://newtrajectory.blogspot.com/2015/09/all-four-vengeful-recall-efforts-by-pro.html
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