Wednesday, August 3, 2011

Joe Huffman on Carolyn McCarthy

Joe used a line from Congresswoman McCarthy on his Quote of the Day post. You know the one where he usually takes some reasonable gun control idea and mocks the person for saying it. His commenters always in unanimous agreement, applaud. I don't know why he bothers.

I don’t understand why people can’t have common sense. Large magazines do not need to be part of it. The large manufacturers, they should even take a moral point of view in not selling them to ordinary citizens through the gun stores. The police and military can still use them. But I just morally think they should not look to sell them to the average citizen.

Carolyn McCarthy
July 28, 2011

Joe said:

Yes, it’s “the shoulder thing that goes up” Carolyn McCarthy demonstrating her ignorance and bigotry again.

I commented:

That's not the result of ignorance and bias, not at all. In fact she's absolutely right. The only problem I see with it is the magazine capacity limit is way down the line of things we should be fighting for.

1. Background checks on all gun transfers (you call it the private sale ban, I suppose)
2. Licensing of all gun owners requiring criminal and mental health background checks
3. Registraion of every gun sold to a licensed individual
4. Safe storage requirements for the home.

After those we can talk about college campuses and suppressors and magazine size and whatever else comes up.
Why is the Congresswoman so insistent on the magazine capacity limitation when we have begger fish to fry?

Why is Joe Huffman still talking about the "shoulder thing that goes up?" You'd think he and his friends were hard up for stupid things that politicians say, since they keep reminding us of this particular one. I have to admit it was a good one, but enough is enough. Besides, the ignorance demonstrated in that famous description of a barrel shroud doesn't necessarily mean she's ignorant about the magazine business, which seems to be what Joe is saying.

What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.

10 comments:

  1. Because McCarthy needs to know what the fuck she's talking about before she spouts her usual bullshit about gun control, Most of your positions on gun control is pure crap except the one on background checks for personal sales and only if the seller could call nics on a go-no go sale and no record of said check. Hi-cap mags are no different than standard mags. my AR-15 and AK-47 have 30 rnd. mags which are standard rnd. mags. Why is it that the controllers know jack shit about guns?

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  2. It seems that the high capacity magazine ban that McCarthy seeks would restrict them to 10 rounds. But why 10? Why not 9? Or 8? Or 1? The desire for the ban was renewed after Jared Loughner killed 6 and wounded 14 using a high capacity magazine. That was a horrific crime. But would it have been less horrific if he had killed 6 and wounded 4 with a 10 round magazine? Or killed 10 people with a 10 round magazine? I agree that the high capacity magazine ban is small potatoes to gun control supporters. Why not just seek to ban all guns except for single shot .22 caliber rifles? If McCarthy et al. want to ban all guns, then they should have the political courage to come out and state that. Arguing to limit magazine capacity to 10 rounds makes no sense, let alone "common sense", and is simply a way to try to chip away at gun rights.

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  3. Cowman, I'm glad you can see something good in what I preach. Your final question though is a poor attempt to paint us all with a broad brush stroke that only applies to some.

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  4. Ok let me put it this way, the controllers I know, by far and large, don't know anything about guns and the laws governing guns.
    For instance, a good friend of mine is absolutly convinced that my AR-15 and my AK-47 can be easily converted into title 3 select fire weapons, no matter what I say, he's convinced all it takes is just drop in a new sear and away you go, another aquaintence of mine is sure you can go to any gun show and pick up a machine gun no questions asked. It's ignorance like this and ignorance like McCarthy's that really give the gun control movement a bad name, not to mention the dumbasses over at the VPC and the Brady Bunch.
    As far as registration, NOT NOW, NOT EVER. Registration can and has led to confiscation, case in point, CA's registration on so called assault weapons, whatever the hell that term means, and then confiscation. No thank you. The govt has no right or business knowing what firearms I own or don't own

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  5. McCarthy is a ghoul that uses every dead body she can as a way to push a political agenda.

    Magazine bans are not proven effective gun control measures--even Europe doesn't bother with them. It is just political and shame on her for using the deaths of those poor children in Norway as a means to push a political scheme in the U.S.

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  6. This is ALMOST as stupid as your false analogy to a Pez dispenser. It is the most implausible twisting of motive I've read in a while. The only other place I could expect to see contortions like this is Cirque de Soleil...and they have better costumes and are more entertaining.

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  7. Bullshit, McCarthy is a fucking ghoul who dances in the blood of victims to push her gun control crap. Fortunatly over half of the House of Rep. are A rated by the NRA and none of her bullshit legislation will ever become law. That idiot can't even get her terms right. She never goes after the criminals, just honest law abiding citizens. I love her comment about that "shoulder thingy that goes up". What a clueless moron. We already have more than 22,000 Fed., state, and local laws on the books, how many more do you want that CRIMINALS would just ignore anyway? Here's a novel idea, lets start by enforcing those laws and quit with the plea down of gun violations. Gee ya think that might be a good start?

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  8. "This is ALMOST as stupid as your false analogy to a Pez dispenser."

    What about my PEZ dispenser analogy was false? You never did disprove it only that you thought it was "funny" somehow.

    Three main parts of a gun magazine, any capacity: Body, Follower, Spring.

    Three main parts of a PEZ dispenser, any style "head": Body, Follower, spring.

    Sorry, to burst your bubble but metal spring tension technology first appeared about the bronze age. Hasn't really changed much--just more plastic involved now.

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  9. Cowman, May I have a word with you? I hope you've calmed down since writing that last amazing comment. I'm gonna attempt the trendy new internet thing they do, splicing or something (help me out again Dog Gone, will ya?)

    Bullshit, McCarthy is a fucking ghoul who dances in the blood of victims to push her gun control crap.

    "Ghoul" must be the new in word. I've been called it lately on other sites. Anyway, when we use gun violence to illustrate our position, you can call it anything you want. But, just like your new word "ghoul," when you do it too frequently you sound like a mindless sycophant. Besides, it's you gun-rights advocates who share in the responsibility for the deaths, not us.

    Fortunatly over half of the House of Rep. are A rated by the NRA and none of her bullshit legislation will ever become law.

    I don't know if that's true. It sounds like you made that up the way I do sometimes. Am I right?

    That idiot can't even get her terms right. I love her comment about that "shoulder thingy that goes up". What a clueless moron.

    I agree that "barrell shroud" definition was a beauty. She deserved some good ribbing for that. But it doesn't necessarily mean her ideas for legislation are wrong. It means she's not familiar with the nomenclature of a rifle, that's all. And who says she has to be in order to be a legislator?

    She never goes after the criminals, just honest law abiding citizens.

    Well, this is exactly as it should be. Aren't you the one who keeps telling us criminals don't obey the laws? Now, what are you doing complaining that we're not aiming the laws at them?

    The point is guns flow from the law-abiding to the criminals. Regulations on the law-abiding, however much you hate the idea, is exactly what we need to stem the flow.

    We already have more than 22,000 Fed., state, and local laws on the books, how many more do you want that CRIMINALS would just ignore anyway?

    Now, this is just bullshit that's been repeated by you guys so many times that you're starting to believe it yourselves. To be fair, you couldn't count the redundant and the archaic laws. Also you couldn't count every single state and every single local ordinance, not if you wanted to make a sensible statement. Why don't you stick with "there are too many" and leave it at that?

    Here's a novel idea, lets start by enforcing those laws and quit with the plea down of gun violations. Gee ya think that might be a good start?

    This part I pretty much agree with.

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  10. Mikeb302000:

    When you start from teh BatshitKKKrazzee, it's a short trip to, well, teh BatshitKKKrazzee. Folks like Tippedcowman are taking a very short commute.

    That list of rules needs a new #1.

    "In the event of a violent act being performed with a handgun, regardless intent or motive, the shooter, his entire family and the neighbors on both sides, front and back are to be summarily AND publicly executed."

    That'll get rid of allathem bad apples!

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