The House passed legislation on Wednesday that would require states that issue concealed gun permits to recognize similar licenses from other states. The vote was 272 to 154.What do you think about this?
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Friday, November 18, 2011
House Approves Concealed Carry Reciprosity
The New York Times reports on how the NRA and the gun manufacturers have bought and paid for enough of the Congress to achieve this incredible result.
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I don't think they bought and paid for most of them. I think they bought and paid for a few and then let the cascade effect of carrot and stick take over. It's politics pure and simple.
ReplyDeleteOne of the things that the reichwing continually does is to portray the democrats in congress as a monolithic block. The results of votes such as this show that to be a lie:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2011-852&utm_source=@HouseFloor
7 republicans voted against the bill, 5 abstained. This sort of lopsided result has been pretty much the story of the House since around 1980. Whether in or out of control of the Congress and the White House, the GOP insists on party line orthodoxy. Whether it is HR 822, sensible healthcare provisions, reasonable social welfare programs or any other piece of legislation that the 1%ers have an interest in, the GOP can be counted on for their reliability in voting against the interest of their contituents (and still, in a few cases, their own convictions).
I'm fairly certain that the gunzloonz are cheering this and will be dancing in the streets. So be it. They think that their freedom is dependent upon carrying guns, what a sad way to view freedom.
what a sad way to view freedom.
ReplyDeleteYeah, all those metal detectors and searches--some freedom!
Maybe, it will become like Ulster duing the troubles where you were searched entering almost any public place.
I am not real optimistic that this will get through the Senate but it sure was fun watching the debates on Wednesday.
ReplyDeleteThe antis mostly just repeated the same tired old rhetoric given to them by Joyce funded groups and when they deviated from that, they came off as bat shit crazy. You could tell a couple of them like Jackson and McCarthy were clearly upset that no matter what they said, no one really listened to their rantings.
They introduced nine amendments designed to kill it and watched as nine amendments got systematically defeated. One was nutty enough to introduce an amendment that anyone wishing to carry into another state had to call that state's police and tell them 24 hours before you traveled there.
I'm provisionally celebrating. The fight in the Senate won't be as easy, but there are enough Democratic senators who want to keep their jobs that it could pass there. The key after that is to attach this bill to something that has to pass or that Obama wants to sign. That's how we got concealed carry in national parks.
ReplyDeleteIt won't pass the Senate. First off, the House has always been more reactionary then rational, and looney bills are far more likely to pass there to appease the fringes of their party members.
ReplyDeleteSecond, I believe there are enough senators who don't want to be responsible for arming criminals. Every time a CCL carrier kills an innocent, we will be sure to remind those who voted for this bill (in both houses), and make it public.
Baldr Odinson,
ReplyDeleteAnd the NRA will be around to remind those senators who vote against this about their vote.
I'm not sure how you can call 272 to 154 a fringe vote, by the way.