Wednesday, November 16, 2011

Liberals and Conservatives


7 comments:

  1. Looking at this site seems to indicate the "facts" being presented may not be what they seem

    http://voteview.spia.uga.edu/blog/?p=1678

    The Social Security Act of 1935 was passed almost unanimously by both parties

    The Civil Rights Act passed again by large support from both parties, but was primarily opposed by Southern Democrats.

    Based upon this, seems the left is just as guilty as the right on skewing the facts to suit the cause.

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  2. Not really. It has been the right which has a long history of trying to dismantle or eliminate Social Security entirely.

    After the initial passage, the conservative support disappeared.

    As to the Civil Rights Act? Those southern democrats were the conservatives who are now the worst of the worst southern Republicans, including the birthers.

    The names changed; the bigotry and regressive qualities did not.

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  3. PJ:

    Liberals, not rethuligans or democrats; liberals.

    There actually used to be some of them in the GOP.

    The Dixiecrats were a reliable voting bloc until they felt the hot breath of desegregation on the backs of their rednecks. The reason that people like Helms and Thurmond were once (D) is that they knew, before 1964, no republican could be elected in the deep south because of the fact that the Party of Lincoln tried to right the American Apartheid in Dixie after the War of Southern Treachery. History is great stuff, you just have to read a few more than one or two authors that you like.

    As for conservatives supporting the SS act or anything else in congress, it only happens when they can longer drag their feet and thrust their monkey wrenches into the machinery of the lege.

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  4. Let's not forget that Richard Nixon created the Environmental Protection Agency. Of course, my brand of Republican, Teddy Roosevelt, was something of an environmentalist himself.

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  5. Roosevelt largely created our national park system.

    Nixon didn't so much invent environmental protection, but rather reorganized the other sectors of government that were already doing the job of the EPA.

    And it was not that Nixon was a particularly green-oriented president either. The Cuyahoga River catching on fire had a lot more to do with the creation of the EPA than conservative politics. Conservatives fought environmental legislation every step of the way, and have typically done so ever since. Conservatives hate the environment and would gladly exploit it to hell for a buck, and don't give a damn about it, so long as they can pay for a clean corner of the planet to live in.

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  6. I always thought Nixon got a bad deal with that Watergate coverup thing. I thought it was a trumped up charge, I mean there was wrongdoing, but nothing special like they always pretended.

    But nothing could out do the Clinton / Lewinsky thing.

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  7. Nixon didn't get a blowjob or six. All he did was set up a shadow gummint--oh, wait, that was Reagan. Well, all he did was get us into a pair of wars that he left to someone else to conclude--oh, no, that was Bush43. Umm, lemme think. Oh, I got it. He had those tradespeople, "The Plumbers" do what the Teabagholes have been accusing Acorn of doing--subverting the election process. Oh, and then he lied about it, a whole bunch and he shitcanned decent, honest government officials who wouldn't play ball with his "team", and, well, I don't think he got a raw deal. He should have been impeached, indicted, convicted and imprisoned. It might have served as an example to the GOP that High Crimes and Misdemeanors DON'T pay.

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