Sunday, November 13, 2011

Jumping the Gun - Or Is It?

David Hardy posted the following brief post on his wonderful site, Of Arms and the Law.

Senator Lautenberg and Rep. Carolyn McCarthy urge Obama to veto the national handgun reciprocity bill. Since the bill hasn't been passed by either Senate or House, let alone both, calls for its veto do seem a bit premature.

My comment went like this:
David, Isn't it common practice to publicly urge the President to veto a bill not yet approved? Isn't that part of the Washington DC legislative game? In your post you sound like you're poking Lautenberg and McCarthy with the stupid stick for having done this, while what they've done is normal practice.
The automatic response:

Your comment was denied for questionable content. Comment spams blocked at last count totally 200,000, and I have set filters to block certain strings (but "cialis" blocks "socialism"). If you are a real commenter and not a robot, just email me.

I guess I'm banned over there, but I'll write to him to be sure it's not a mistake with the filter.

I suppose the undercurrent is that David likes the federal government to intervene in States' business when it suits him, just like so many other hypocritical gun-rights advocates.

You see for them, the gun is supreme, it trumps everything. So indoctrinated are they, that their brains trigger a lightning-fast negative response to any and all gun control suggestions, even the most sensible. Then they scramble around for justification, which they find in each others writing and rhetoric, much of that coming from their big-daddy leaders in the NRA.

What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.

11 comments:

  1. Gunloons like Hardy don't like comments that aren't 110% in lockstep with their views.

    Of course, Hardy is still trying to rehab the image of David Koresh, so that's understandable.

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  2. "So indoctrinated are they, that their brains trigger a lightning-fast negative response to any and all gun control suggestions, even the most sensible."

    Change the word "negative" to "positive" and you have just perfectly described McCarthy.

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  3. If the Federal government forces states to abide by the First Amendment, would you object? This bill merely makes a reality of the promise offered in the Second Amendment. The rights of the states are addressed in the Tenth Amendment, but firearms are one of the ennumerated rights of the people.

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  4. Mikeb302000,

    If it makes you feel any better, my comment was blocked on that site as well. See what happens when rights get restricted?

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  5. Greg Camp:

    Apparently your education included the subject of english and not much else.

    On the ond hand you want the feds to force various states to honor other states gun laws, but you probably don't really want the gunzlawz in MA to be in effect where you live.

    Critical thinking is something that was apparently not stressed in your schooling.

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  6. Greg Camp is a hypocrite when he write:
    "Mikeb302000,

    If it makes you feel any better, my comment was blocked on that site as well. See what happens when rights get restricted? "

    Because first Greg Camp complains about how important individual rights are - and everyone else's choices be damned - and then he complains about a comment on a privately owned site being blocked.

    So, either he apparently is not aware that the first amendment is about the government not interfering in free speech, but it does not apply to private individuals limiting what they write or allow on their personal property / sites. Guess Greg really isn't about the individual's rights, only forcing his own on other people....

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  7. IMPORTANT UPDATE
    I received a perfectly polite e-mail from David who explained the technical problem which is causing some comments to be picked up by his filters. He suggested not including my e-mail address when commenting but only the name and web-site. I tried again and the comment was accepted.

    In the message he didn't engage in any kind of debate so I'm still curious if he'd been "poking with the stupid stick" for something that is quite normal and acceptable.

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  8. Democommie,

    H.R. 822 has nothing to do with enforcing the crazy gun laws of Massachusetts on any other state. Read the bill. It doesn't create a new regulatory system. It merely requires states to recognize the carry licenses issued by other states, unless we're talking about Illinois.

    Dog Gone,

    Obviously, you have no sense of humor.

    To everyone,

    I also hope that the wretched Defense of Marriage Act is tossed out soon, so that all states have to recognize the marriage licenses of any states. The principle here is the same.

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  9. GC wrote:
    Dog Gone,

    Obviously, you have no sense of humor.


    Or, maybe you are just not funny.

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  10. Greg Camp:

    "Democommie,

    H.R. 822 has nothing to do with enforcing the crazy gun laws of Massachusetts on any other state. Read the bill. It doesn't create a new regulatory system. It merely requires states to recognize the carry licenses issued by other states, unless we're talking about Illinois."

    You're a teacher? WTF are those students of yours learning?

    Do you not understand sarcasm or hyperbole?

    I know WHAT I said, and I know that you and your gunzloonz pals would absolutely shit their pants if the feds decided that everyone SHOULD obey the laws of neighboring states that don't want their citizens menaced by macho yahoos brandishing, or carrying concealed, weapons. You are either pavlovian in your response to any sort of regulation of firearms or you're too stupid to have earned your degree.

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  11. Democommie,

    You are correct to say that I don't want the Federal government to enforce the laws of Massachusetts on the rest of us. Massachusetts gets to make its own laws regarding firearms within its borders, so long as those laws are in compliance with the U.S. Constitution. If you recall, the Second Amendment has been incorporated against the states. That was done in the same way that the happened with the First Amendment. I would object if Massachusetts denied a person the right to worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster or write a blog, and I object when any state in the union denies the marriage license of a couple from another state. By the same line of reasoning, I want the states to respect our Second Amendment rights.

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