How did he lie? The news anchors were clearly taking the opposite point of view, and he defended himself and his position well. From what I know of his organization, I see a lot of good being done here.
Mikeb, you call a lot of people liars. Many of those people are armed. If we were as dangerous to humanity as you claim, what do you imagine would be the result?
Greg, do you honestly believe that a guy like Kyle who is seriously involved in gun rights was telling the truth when he said "It never occurred to me...?"
You love false dichotomies, don't you. I don't know the man. It's entirely possible that he saw no connection before the reporters asked. What matters here is that he's giving shotguns to people in need. You accuse him of lying about something that's inconsequential, while ignoring the main point--typical for you.
Does that mean your answer is yes? You believed him? I didn't ask if it's possible, I asked if you believed him. Why can't you answer a straight question with a yes or a no?
I'm not ignoring the bigger quesion. When have I ever shirked from pronouncing my belief that more guns equals more trouble, that guns do more harm than good?
When you ask a question that can be answered with a simple yes or no, I'll give you that kind of answer. Do you really not understand subtlety and nuance? Do you really not get that with little to no evidence, on some matters, I have to remain agnostic or give only a provisional answer?
No wonder you never understand how to analyze data or evaluate a situation.
How did he lie? The news anchors were clearly taking the opposite point of view, and he defended himself and his position well. From what I know of his organization, I see a lot of good being done here.
ReplyDeleteMikeb, you call a lot of people liars. Many of those people are armed. If we were as dangerous to humanity as you claim, what do you imagine would be the result?
What do you contend is Mr. Coplen's "lie," lying herbivore?
ReplyDeleteI referenced it in the post.
DeleteAnd you know that to be a lie how? Not everyone is obsessed with wacko shooters as you are, Mikeb.
DeleteGreg, do you honestly believe that a guy like Kyle who is seriously involved in gun rights was telling the truth when he said "It never occurred to me...?"
DeleteThat's a yes or no question.
You love false dichotomies, don't you. I don't know the man. It's entirely possible that he saw no connection before the reporters asked. What matters here is that he's giving shotguns to people in need. You accuse him of lying about something that's inconsequential, while ignoring the main point--typical for you.
DeleteDoes that mean your answer is yes? You believed him? I didn't ask if it's possible, I asked if you believed him. Why can't you answer a straight question with a yes or a no?
DeleteI'm not ignoring the bigger quesion. When have I ever shirked from pronouncing my belief that more guns equals more trouble, that guns do more harm than good?
When you ask a question that can be answered with a simple yes or no, I'll give you that kind of answer. Do you really not understand subtlety and nuance? Do you really not get that with little to no evidence, on some matters, I have to remain agnostic or give only a provisional answer?
DeleteNo wonder you never understand how to analyze data or evaluate a situation.
People can't defend themselves in a city where a member of congress was shot?
ReplyDeleteBig accusations coming from someone with such a dubious association with the truth, Mike.
ReplyDeleteHear the wonderful news? Mr. Koplen (the one Mikeb libels as a "liar"), is planning to expand the program to where it's most urgently needed: Chicago.
ReplyDeleteA true civil rights hero is Mr. Koplen. I just donated again, to contribute in whatever small way I can to their fabulous work.