Wednesday, March 5, 2014

Dom Raso - Guns in Businesses


As usual with the gun-rights fanatics, the truth takes second place to the exaggerated rhetoric. Dom says there have been 2.5 million concealed carry permits issued in Florida. Then he says they're all potential customers for YOUR STORE.  In what he must think is a slick way, he's gone from all the permits ever issued, including I suppose renewals as well as those that have expired, making it sound like there are truly that many out there.  Well, this site says there are less than half that, at least when you count active permits.
I'm sure his other stat about how few have committed crimes is equally false.

Another interesting thing in this video is his insistence that all these concealed carry permit holders are continually on the lookout for lawbreakers. I've been told quite the opposite, but let's run with it. Dom Raso himself claims to be "trained, prepared, and always on the lookout for those preparing to do harm to others in this country." Does he think of himself as some kind of super-hero who's continually scouring the entire country for wrongdoers?

And the clincher, "Why would you want to keep guys like me out of your store or business?"

Well, one reason might be because guys like him are dangerous.  People who see themselves as judge, jury and executioner would not be welcome in any business of mine. And let's face it, even if Mr. Raso is as trained and prepared as he claims, but your average Florida permit holder is not. Many of those guys are inadequately trained and prepared, and sure to be a liability in any emergency.


13 comments:

  1. Of course, you reject the fact about how many carry license holders commit crimes. Accepting that truth would undermine your beliefs. But your stubborn refusal doesn't change reality.

    And quibble as much as you like about the number of Florida license holders, but there are more than 8,000,000 Americans who carry legally. That's a lot of people whose money those businesses apparently don't want.

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    1. Greg, if that were the reality why would Dom Raso have to exaggerate the number like he did. Wouldn't the true numbers have made his point?

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    2. Mikeb, does it occur to you that he may have seen that number and taken it on face value? But his point wasn't dependent on 2.5 million vs. one million.

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    3. That's exactly my point, Greg. You guys often exaggerate and lie about the positions of your opponents unnecessarily. Being fundamentally dishonest people, you can't help yourselves.

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    4. No, you're too willing to shout LIAR! at everything. I don't know where he got that number. He may have read it in a newspaper or something similar. But he's not trying to be deceptive. His point isn't invalidated if the number is in fact only one million, rather than 2.5 million.

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    5. Greg: Don't you think he might have believed a figure he saw and innocently reported it?

      Mikeb: Yes, that's why he's a liar!

      Everyone with common sense: WTF?!?

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    6. Greg, try not to be too much of a hypocrite. Would you sit still for someone on my side doing that? Would you accept the lame excuses you just made?

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  2. Well done on challenging the number of permits in Florida. You called BS, and you backed it up with a link to a reputable figure stating otherwise.

    Now do the same for the other stat you're challenging regarding permit holders committing crimes. Don't just say "I'm sure".

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    1. I don't really know where to look for that one, but the problem isn't solved that easily. First you take all the permit holders that are convicted of gun crimes, then you add to that all those who should have been convicted of gun crimes but but got off on technicalities or through plea bargaining. Then you add to that number all the ones who got caught drunk driving or in road rage incidents. Then of course we have the domestic abusers, the drug users, the drunk and disorderly, the ones who have negligent discharges and drop their guns in public.

      I'm probably forgetting a few categories, but you get the idea. Concealed carry permit holders are not any safer or more responsible than the rest of the gun owners, and as we continually point out, that leaves a lot to be desired.

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    2. The general population is also subject to those same "problems" of getting off on technicalities and plea bargains. So when we see permit holders having lower rates than the general population, that means something.

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    3. Indeed--let's look at the records of carry license holders. The records that are reported by the state police agencies and so forth that we've discussed here in the past. Don't you remember how those records show that we're a more law-abiding group than the general population?

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    1. Send me off-topic links by e-mail.

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